Putting a CV Duo-Sonic neck on a Strat

honeyiscool · Post by **honeyiscool** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:06 pm

I'd like to short scale my Strat and need a maple fretboard, so this seems like a good idea.

Is this easily doable? Do the Duo necks use standard 9mm Kluson tuners?

Lucamo · Post by **Lucamo** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:19 pm

I am dumb and know nothing... But I know the Duo is a conversion neck... so it should work?! Maybe alignment issues?

porterhaus · Post by **porterhaus** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:35 pm

My experience has been that most strats (tremolo equipped) will not intonate properly with the squier CV duo sonic and jagmaster "conversion necks". This is because the intonation adjustment on the bridges is limited.

However, a hard tail strat does have enough intonation adjustment room on the bridge.

YMMV

honeyiscool · Post by **honeyiscool** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:00 pm

It's a hardtail.

But couldn't you just get different intonation screws?

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:00 pm

Yeah, forget the tuners, the intonation is the deal here. A Start neck will intonate on a CIC Jagmaster but it is close, so maybe it will work.

hotrodperlmutter · Post by **hotrodperlmutter** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:11 pm

wtf is an intonation screw?

honeyiscool · Post by **honeyiscool** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:13 pm

Saddle screw.

tomin8r · Post by **tomin8r** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:22 pm

IIRC, serfx once put a Jagmaster convert neck on a tele, but with the tele bridge, theres a lot of room for intonation.

serfx · Post by **serfx** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:57 pm

that i did, and the tele neck onto the cic jagmaster
both needed an intonation setup but worked fine after that.

the cv duo neck should work fine on a strat, but you will need an intonation adjustment.
plus the heal will fit perfect unlike my swap, where the jagmaster neck has a bit of a gap on the tele due to the rounded heal, and the tele neck is super tight on the jagmaster body.

someone else here put a cic jagmaster neck on a strat body though, but i can't recall who, and that was about 3 years ago.

cur · Post by **cur** » Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:26 am

Here are some conversion neck threads that have a lot of info:

http://www.shortscale.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=32649

http://www.shortscale.org/forum/viewtop ... 9444edf70c

Seems to me it should be close. I looked into it once and think it was possible. My Squier CV Duo Sonic neck is 17-3/8" from nut to heel. So add that to the distance from the heel pocket to the saddles and see if it will be in a range that will work..

Also SX and Douglas have short scale strats of sorts. Info on them are in the above links as well.

honeyiscool · Post by **honeyiscool** » Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:27 am

Yeah but I don't want a short scale Strat, I want a short scale neck on my Hello Kitty Strat.

Seems like it should work! That would make this guitar rule more!

porterhaus · Post by **porterhaus** » Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:38 pm

honeyiscool wrote:It's a hardtail.

But couldn't you just get different intonation screws?

You might need longer intonation screws even on a hardtail.

The tremolo bridge is too short. The saddles would end up on the guitar body.

Check to see If the hello kitty strat has exactly 6-11/16" between the neck pocket and the front edge of the bridge. (See picture.) If so, it should work.

I would also suggest this bridge from GFS:

Top Mount Hardtail Bridge Link

On the stock bridge, you might find that with the saddles adjusted far enough out for proper intonation the strings interfere with the mechanism. The GFS bridge is designed so the strings are adjacent to the adjustment screws instead of inline with them. The mounting holes might not line up perfectly with the stock holes. If that happens, then just fill them with a hardwood dowel and re-drill them accordingly.

Good luck!

honeyiscool · Post by **honeyiscool** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:17 am

I just measured, and it's shorter than that. It's actually more like 6 5/8", maybe even less. I believe the Hello Kitty actually has a special, larger, custom hardtail bridge that is not a standard hardtail bridge because I remember it being listed somewhere with a different parts number. It's similar to those Tele Plus bridges.

So I should be kosher? I guess I might need longer saddle screws, though.

That GFS bridge looks like it might even drop in without any drilling, but I don't see why I would change to that.

Of course, you can't really get an accurate reading off the picture, but it seems like a hair under 6 5/8" to me.

There's a bit of a gap in the sides of the neck because I used to have a Jazzmaster neck on it way back when and I did a poor job of fitting it.

hotrodperlmutter · Post by **hotrodperlmutter** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:30 am

honeyiscool wrote:I believe the Hello Kitty actually has a special custom hardtail bridge that is not a standard hardtail bridge.

lolwut

looks like the same 5 screw hardtail to me. different saddles and drilled for string-thru maybe, but i got money on it being the same bridge.

honeyiscool · Post by **honeyiscool** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:37 am

Look at that picture. It clearly looks wider than the bridge on the left to me.

http://www.squierguitars.com/pdf/Squier ... tsList.pdf

Hello Kitty Strat actually has a lot of parts that have different parts numbers from the standard Squier guitars. The only other guitar that uses the same bridge is the Deryck Whibley Tele. I don't find it odd that they might have designed a different bridge for the guitar. They did go through the trouble of making a unique pink finish and pink dots on the fretboard after all, it's clearly not some job that was put together without some thought.

Apparently, the output assembly and tuners are unique to the Hello Kitty as well, not to mention the pickguard and the pickup, which sounds nothing like a normal humbucker. I kind of feel like buying another Hello Kitty, since I like the one I have.

hotrodperlmutter · Post by **hotrodperlmutter** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:12 am

nah, looks the same to me, but i'll take a good pic of a top down view of that green guitar when i get home.

it's probably a different part number because it has holes drilled for the string-thru, as those are the only two guitars that have strat bridges with string-thru that squier currently offers.

notice the tom delonge strat bridge isn't even listed... it's identical to the one on the bullet strats, with the exception of holes for the string-thru. i know because i've owned both, and was able to swap the bridges out, and they're identical. i later returned it to stock and sold the hacked up delonge body, but that's a whole 'nother story altogether.

Lucamo · Post by **Lucamo** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:30 am

You single handedly made me want a pink hello kitty guitar.

Seem a fun modding platform, is it routed for another pickup at all?\

YOU DO AN demo?

hotrodperlmutter · Post by **hotrodperlmutter** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:39 am

Sparky · Post by **Sparky** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 5:06 am

On my Jagmaster-neck'd Strat I have the saddles moved way the fuck up and set up for only approximate intonation. It's pretty dead-on, but the results aren't perfect. I suspect it has to do with the SX body/bridge though so I'm 100%.

Lucamo · Post by **Lucamo** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 5:14 am

hotrodperlmutter wrote:

STILL WANT.

Put some random ass TOaster pickup in there and have a JANGOSRATBLASTER