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Solid State Overdrive? HUH?Z

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So I got a Solid State amp.

To be honest, I cannot be bothered with tubes. They seem to be a lot of hassle for a tone boost that right now, I do not need.
All I play is shitty lo-fi sounding pop and punkish stuff anyways I don't need no tone for days.

But, I do want a proper sounding drive, that isen't a hell on earth fuzz.
Basically I want a Overdrive similar to the TS-808.

But I have heard these types of pedals do not mix with SS amps... is this true?
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Post by Johno »

Nope its not true. Get a TS pedal & be happy.
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Post by George »

I didn't like how my TS7 sounded with my solid state Marshall, but I don't really like screamers anyway. I will say that pretty much all Boss drive pedals I've tried sound good through solid states. I don't know if it's because they're supposed to be used as stand alone pedals, unlike the screamers (which is why people don't like them with ss, allegedly).

Will a TS808 have enough drive for the stuff you're describing you play?
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Boss ODB-3 and SS work like a dream!
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Which amp did you get? Maybe one of us has experience with it and can help.
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Lucamo wrote:So I got a Solid State amp.

To be honest, I cannot be bothered with tubes. They seem to be a lot of hassle for a tone boost that right now, I do not need.
All I play is shitty lo-fi sounding pop and punkish stuff anyways I don't need no tone for days.

But, I do want a proper sounding drive, that isen't a hell on earth fuzz.
Basically I want a Overdrive similar to the TS-808.

But I have heard these types of pedals do not mix with SS amps... is this true?
Opinions!

THANKS

You have been talking about wanting to build a pedal so do this.... TS808

It works well with my Orange CR20L..... But I think the best OD for a solid state amp is an OCD...
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The difference is between the overdrive pedal distorting itself (in its own opamps, which usually sounds good) and the pedal simply providing a clean boost that is intended to overdrive the tubes of a tube amp.

A lot of pedals, like the Tubescreamer, is intended to get a little dirty itself but also provide a huge clean boost which overdrives the amp. The VoodooLabs Sparkle Drive has a clean boost you can mix in to specifically provide this clean boost to the tube amp.

Look for a mild distortion or an overdrive that has a lot of crunch. Something like an OCD might be perfect?

Hope this helps!
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mathiasx wrote: An OCD is perfect!
lorez wrote: I'm a fuzz lover so my clean is another man's crunch ;)
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Post by Freddy V-C »

The other guitarist in my band plays through a solid state amp. He usually uses either a Proco Rat 2 or a Boss OD3, of the two of them I'd go with the Rat, but I was surprised by the OD3, because it does actually sound pretty good too.
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DS1 or 2
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Johno wrote:Nope its not true. Get a TS pedal & be happy.
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mathiasx wrote:Something like an OCD might be perfect?
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Post by avj »

There's no shame in a solid-state amp, friend -- especially if you're playing gainy stuff.

This friggin' clown exclusively uses pedals into a solid-state amp for his distorted sounds:

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I always found RAT pedals to work on either valve or solidstate amps; enough note definition while remaining heavyyyyyyyy with the ability to smooth out those spiky upper frequencies often very abundant in solidstates.

Sound sample; RAT into Marshall DSL50 head with 2x12 cab, then into Marshall VS100R combo
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Doog wrote:I always found RAT pedals to work on either valve or solidstate amps; enough note definition while remaining heavyyyyyyyy with the ability to smooth out those spiky upper frequencies often very abundant in solidstates.

Sound sample; RAT into Marshall DSL50 head with 2x12 cab, then into Marshall VS100R combo
For thorough nerdery, was this pre- or post-Ruetz mod?
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Post by Lucamo »

THANSK DOOG and all responses.

I was gonna say I heard SolidState amps are good for drive as well, due to Greenwood using one.

I am also using a mid 80s Princeton Chorus Solid State, I've heard 80s Fenders are quite good for gain-y music anyways so I'm in luck.

I just realized I don't really like the sound of either overdrive or dist. Fuzz sounds great, distortion has its uses but I dunno if I like the needleness, maybe a rat. And over-drive sounds too classic rock-ish, I can get the same solo-power chord AC/DC aggression (for when I feel like a dork alone in my room) with a distortion pedal.
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avj wrote:
Doog wrote:I always found RAT pedals to work on either valve or solidstate amps; enough note definition while remaining heavyyyyyyyy with the ability to smooth out those spiky upper frequencies often very abundant in solidstates.

Sound sample; RAT into Marshall DSL50 head with 2x12 cab, then into Marshall VS100R combo
For thorough nerdery, was this pre- or post-Ruetz mod?
Definitely post-Ruetz, although my modded 'TWAT' did have a HOT mode that pushed it to stock-ish levels of gain. Sounds like the Ruetz mode, though.

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Lucamo wrote:Fuzz sounds great...
Yeah, with my JC-120 I use a Big Muff Pi all the time.
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Dingus wrote:
Lucamo wrote:Fuzz sounds great...
Yeah, with my JC-120 I use a Big Muff Pi all the time.
I recently sold my trusty ol' Fender Stage 100 (non-DSP), which is a 100-watt solid-state guy that was in the same original Dyna-Touch series as the venerable Princeton 65 and Deluxe 90; I loved that thing with my Big Muff Pi as well.

There's just a certain tightness to a solid-state amp that really seems to pair well with fuzz and other high-gain drive stuff.
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avj wrote:There's just a certain tightness to a solid-state amp that really seems to pair well with high-gain drive stuff.
True...case in point... DimeBag Darrell ran solid state Randalls foreva....
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Post by Lucamo »

I find tube guys brag about tubes more then state guys brag about SS... thats why you hear about tubes more then Solidstate and thats why SS players feel insufficient.
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