Wide Range Humbuckers - the proper ones

Post by **Mike** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:55 pm

All these Custom WRHBs = m@j@ juice

The Fender RI's sound great with 1 meg pots, end of.

George · Post by **George** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:56 pm

I will concede that your old demos with the Deluxe RI sound sweet.

johnnyseven · Post by **johnnyseven** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:06 pm

Mike wrote:
The Fender RI's sound great with 1 meg pots, end of.

They may well do but I don't have set and I don't believe they are readily available to buy in the UK. Plus they'll be too big for the regular humbucker sized holes in my pickguard.

Post by **Mike** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:06 pm

johnnyseven wrote:
Mike wrote:
The Fender RI's sound great with 1 meg pots, end of.
They may well do but I don't have set.

They're a lot easier and cheaper to obtain than the sets you've been looking at I imagine on ebay.

benecol · Post by **benecol** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:07 pm

I disagree Michael my old love - they sound better with meg pots, but they don't sound like proper widerangers. My mate's old landlord had a tele custom with one in - holy mackerel.

Post by **Mike** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:08 pm

I imagine you'll split the profit when he sells it innit.

benecol · Post by **benecol** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:10 pm

johnnyseven wrote:On Lollar's post that you linked to he also doesn't mention what magnets he will be using in his pickups, if he was going to use CuNiFe magnets (which is what the originals used) you'd think he'd be shouting about it.

He's said elsewhere that they're not Cunife - I think everyone's agreed that that stuff is just unobtanium nowadays.

Also, WHY NOT MENTION IN THE FIRST PLACE THAT YOU'RE AFTER HUMBUCKER-SIZED WIDERANGER-ALIKES RATHER THAN YER ACTUAL WIDERANGERS?

NNNNNNNNFGGGGGGGGG...

johnnyseven · Post by **johnnyseven** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:12 pm

Mike wrote:
johnnyseven wrote:
Mike wrote:
The Fender RI's sound great with 1 meg pots, end of.
They may well do but I don't have set.
They're a lot easier and cheaper to obtain than the sets you've been looking at I imagine on ebay.

I made an edit above. The Fender reissue ones won't fit the regular humbucker sized holes I have in my pickguard. Some manufacturers that make their own type of WRHB will make them in standard HB size. If I bought a pair of Fender reissues i'd have to get a new pickguard cut which tends not to be cheap, therefore raising the total cost.

benecol · Post by **benecol** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:14 pm

I think it's you stating "The Proper Ones" in the thread title that's confused people. Made us think that you were interested in, you know, the proper ones...

johnnyseven · Post by **johnnyseven** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:15 pm

benecol wrote: Also, WHY NOT MENTION IN THE FIRST PLACE THAT YOU'RE AFTER HUMBUCKER-SIZED WIDERANGER-ALIKES RATHER THAN YER ACTUAL WIDERANGERS?

I thought I did that when I said 'i'm thinking of taking the Antiquity humbuckers out of my B&B Jazzmaster and putting a set made by Jaime at The Creamery in.' Maybe I didn't make it clear enough that I wanted to make a direct replacement with the same size pickups.

johnnyseven · Post by **johnnyseven** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:23 pm

My reason for starting this thread was so that I could get people's opinions on the sound of the 'the proper ones' as opposed to peoples opinions of the sound of the reissue ones. Hence me putting 'the proper ones' in the title. From what I have read, pickup makers making their versions of the WRH seem to claim that either their regular humbucker or correct sized WRHB sound extremely close to 'the proper ones'. Therefore I didn't think that it would matter what size pickups I may be looking to buy as my original intention was to get opinions on the sound of the original pickups. However as the thread has taken a turn in a different direction from how I intended I apologise for any confusion.

lorez · Post by **lorez** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:25 pm

i liked the sound of the ones that were in the Lee Ronaldo JM that I tried, a bit more brightness to them than a normal humbucker. I liked them a lot.

johnnyseven · Post by **johnnyseven** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:29 pm

Apparently those pickups are made to different specs than the reissue Fender WRHB's.

lorez · Post by **lorez** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:30 pm

johnnyseven wrote:Apparently those pickups are made to different specs than the reissue Fender WRHB's.

I read that they are made to sound more like the originals than the current ones, maybe have a search around for any of them as there are a bunch of people who are swapping them out

benecol · Post by **benecol** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:07 pm

johnnyseven wrote:Apparently those pickups are made to different specs than the reissue Fender WRHB's.

Fender have never actually backed this up with anything though; I say chinny reckon Fender.

(as you may have spotted, I follow WRHB news a little too closely...).

Post by **Mike** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:12 pm

benecol wrote:
johnnyseven wrote:Apparently those pickups are made to different specs than the reissue Fender WRHB's.
Fender have never actually backed this up with anything though; I say chinny reckon Fender.

(as you may have spotted, I follow WRHB news a little too closely...).

One sentence on a spec sheet does much to generate internet hyperbole.

avj · Post by **avj** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:32 pm

johnnyseven wrote:Apparently those pickups are made to different specs than the reissue Fender WRHB's.

I had always assumed this was kind of their fuck-you way of saying they had replaced the pots with 500K or 1M values, as I've also never seen any backing of this claim. If it's indeed true that they're somehow better, it seems ridiculous that they'd not discontinue the old manufacturing method and replace it with this more authentic reissue.

Way off track here, but I was first in line for a Tele Deluxe reissue and love the pickups after replacing the pots (as many have). I did it for the Yorkez and Ranaldoz, but I think in the case of Ranaldo it was probably just a matter of scooping up unloved, cheap '70s crap and making the most of it. I have no experience with original pickups outside of Sonic Youth, early Radiohead albums, and middle-aged accountants on YouTube -- but I really feel like the subtleties of any CuNiFe mojo would be lost in my relatively humble signal chain, to say nothing of Ranaldo's.

If there's really nothing to even come close to the mystical CuNiFe pickups and you can't use the properly-sized WRHBs, you may as well just find a humbucker you love and throw a chrome cover on it.

Thom · Post by **Thom** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:33 pm

Given this:

http://www.offsetguitars.com/forums/vie ... =8&t=44614

...if I were to get any I'd go with Novaks.

avj · Post by **avj** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:43 pm

Thom wrote:Given this:

http://www.offsetguitars.com/forums/vie ... =8&t=44614

...if I were to get any I'd go with Novaks.

Well, I guess that clears up the differences between the reissues and Ranaldos. Sweet!

George · Post by **George** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:48 pm

It's really great he's sharing all that information. What a dude.