Squier Jaguars and Jazzmasters?

wadeaminute · Post by **wadeaminute** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:22 am

I will be popping the pickguard off, yes, but not until next winter.
The bridge is doing fine for me at the moment. Feels nice on the palm. It is only held down by one screw, however, The two on the side are for raising and lowering the bridge, but don't actually hold the bridge to the wood. The screws are under the bridge, and keep it centered. It seems to work fine, though.
Truss rod adjust at the neck.
Neck feels good. And I like the short scale and that it is a hard tail. And especially the colour.
Maybe Duncan Triple-Shots, and some good humbuckers?
And a cut-off tele bridge (GE Smith style)?

Lucamo · Post by **Lucamo** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 6:54 am

I don't remember if we came to a consensus or if there was evidence.

Is it a conversion or true SHORTIE:?!

SGJarrod · Post by **SGJarrod** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:27 pm

wadeaminute wrote:I will be popping the pickguard off, yes, but not until next winter.
The bridge is doing fine for me at the moment. Feels nice on the palm. It is only held down by one screw, however, The two on the side are for raising and lowering the bridge, but don't actually hold the bridge to the wood. The screws are under the bridge, and keep it centered. It seems to work fine, though.
Truss rod adjust at the neck.
Neck feels good. And I like the short scale and that it is a hard tail. And especially the colour.
Maybe Duncan Triple-Shots, and some good humbuckers?
And a cut-off tele bridge (GE Smith style)?

you messed with setting up the intonation?...I was wondering how much of a pain it would be with the bridge design?... with the adjustment screws on the saddles being directly under the strings

wadeaminute · Post by **wadeaminute** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:12 pm

I haven't touched the intonation yet, but it does look like it will be a pain to do so. Haven't had time to check that out yet.
As for conversion neck vs. true shortscale - it looks to be near identical to my 1970 Comp Mustang's neck. So, true shortscale.

taylornutt · Post by **taylornutt** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:16 pm

wadeaminute wrote:I haven't touched the intonation yet, but it does look like it will be a pain to do so. Haven't had time to check that out yet.
As for conversion neck vs. true shortscale - it looks to be near identical to my 1970 Comp Mustang's neck. So, true shortscale.

Sweet!!!! I really hoped it was actual a real Shortscale.

SGJarrod · Post by **SGJarrod** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:53 pm

wadeaminute wrote:I haven't touched the intonation yet, but it does look like it will be a pain to do so. Haven't had time to check that out yet.
As for conversion neck vs. true shortscale - it looks to be near identical to my 1970 Comp Mustang's neck. So, true shortscale.

Awesome Wade!!!! Keep us updated with your experiences

are the pick ups actually needing replaced?...they are Korean made Jazz SH2 in the neck and JB TB4 in the bridge? They should be good if u like HB's

Thanks

SKC Willie · Post by **SKC Willie** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 6:40 pm

wadeaminute wrote:I haven't touched the intonation yet, but it does look like it will be a pain to do so. Haven't had time to check that out yet.
As for conversion neck vs. true shortscale - it looks to be near identical to my 1970 Comp Mustang's neck. So, true shortscale.

take a picture with the necks next to each other, so we'll know for sure and we're not just guessing it's a true shortscale because you said, "it looks to near identical"

wadeaminute · Post by **wadeaminute** » Thu Mar 03, 2011 5:54 am

Well, that would require a bunch more effort.
You don't have to trust me, of course, but they were within millimeters of being the same.

SKC Willie · Post by **SKC Willie** » Thu Mar 03, 2011 6:39 am

see, I just want to know for sure. and I'm a very stubborn person.

I just see some guys looking at his Fender Jag on one end of the room, then glancing over at his new guitar on the other end, only to return to typing his post about how they "look to be identical". haha

serfx · Post by **serfx** » Thu Mar 03, 2011 6:46 am

wadeaminute wrote:Well, that would require a bunch more effort.
You don't have to trust me, of course, but they were within millimeters of being the same.

measure from the heal of the neck to the nut. as it's quite close

true 24" scale is = 17 3/4" heal to Nut
conversion 24" scale is = 17 3/16" heal to nut

you can do this with the neck on.

wadeaminute · Post by **wadeaminute** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:03 am

serfx wrote:
wadeaminute wrote:Well, that would require a bunch more effort.
You don't have to trust me, of course, but they were within millimeters of being the same.
measure from the heal of the neck to the nut. as it's quite close

true 24" scale is = 17 3/4" heal to Nut
conversion 24" scale is = 17 3/16" heal to nut

you can do this with the neck on.

I measured both my 1970 Mustang and my 2011 Squier Jaguar) at 17 3/4".

So, can we agree that this is a true shortscale?

SKC Willie · Post by **SKC Willie** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:05 am

if you take a picture.

hotrodperlmutter · Post by **hotrodperlmutter** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:09 am

SGJarrod · Post by **SGJarrod** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:55 am

wadeaminute wrote:
serfx wrote:
wadeaminute wrote:Well, that would require a bunch more effort.
You don't have to trust me, of course, but they were within millimeters of being the same.
measure from the heal of the neck to the nut. as it's quite close

true 24" scale is = 17 3/4" heal to Nut
conversion 24" scale is = 17 3/16" heal to nut

you can do this with the neck on.

I measured both my 1970 Mustang and my 2011 Squier Jaguar) at 17 3/4".

So, can we agree that this is a true shortscale?

I will be the gent here among this bunch of ruffians...thanx Wade

cobascis · Post by **cobascis** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 1:02 am

PLayed the jazzy through a Bandmaster silverface. Sounded just OKAY, great neck, SHIT finish, and you don't notice how stupid the jack looks .

wadeaminute · Post by **wadeaminute** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 7:01 pm

cobascis wrote:PLayed the jazzy through a Bandmaster silverface. Sounded just OKAY, great neck, SHIT finish, and you don't notice how stupid the jack looks .

I agree with a couple things here: The Jazzmaster neck felt great to me, and I too am over the Strat jack. Can't see it when I'm playing, anyways.

serfx · Post by **serfx** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 7:18 pm

SGJarrod wrote:
wadeaminute wrote:
serfx wrote: measure from the heal of the neck to the nut. as it's quite close

true 24" scale is = 17 3/4" heal to Nut
conversion 24" scale is = 17 3/16" heal to nut

you can do this with the neck on.

I measured both my 1970 Mustang and my 2011 Squier Jaguar) at 17 3/4".

So, can we agree that this is a true shortscale?
I will be the gent here among this bunch of ruffians...thanx Wade

thanks buddy, it is greatly appreciated

Billy3000 · Post by **Billy3000** » Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:02 am

The GC down the road from me had the Jaguar in finally. I asked about the Jazzmaster but they said they won't get one for another couple of weeks during some kind of promotional thing. I tried to play the Jag though. It felt and looked nice. I didn't like the way the bridge looked, it felt ok, but I can't imagine it being good for sustain at all with it floating above the body like that. Plus I'm sure if I played it at shows with that bridge sweat and gunk would build up underneath it and it would get pretty disgusting really quickly. The thing wasn't intonated at all, and every guitar I wanted to play at GC today was out of tune and there was about 10,000 metalheads cranking their shitty attempts at shredding with too much distortion for me to even attempt to tune it by ear, so I was frustrated and gave up and walked out.

I just sold my Jazz bass and had $450 cash on me, and was very open to the idea of impulse buying something I didn't need. If Guitar Center had just taken the time to intonate and tune the god damn thing, I might have impulsively bought it today!

wadeaminute · Post by **wadeaminute** » Sun Mar 06, 2011 4:11 am

I set my Jaguar up yesterday with new strings and bridge adjustment, and I am quite happy with it.
The weird thing is that mine sustains like crazy. I don't understand it, as there are only three small points of contact with the bridge screws, but you really could go an' have a bite...

DGNR8 · Post by **DGNR8** » Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:50 pm

I just now saw this thread. I like the Jazzmaster. It's a JM with a maple neck. I dislike the plastic truss rod hole as much as the strat jack.