About This Conversion Neck Thing

Sano · Post by **Sano** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 6:28 am

Perhaps I've misunderstood, but I was under the impression a current model Jagmaster neck would work on a strat. I just took the neck off my 2010 Jagmaster and held it next to my strat neck. Not even close to having enough saddles adjustment to measure 12" from bridge to 12th fret. What gives ?

Strat neck will work on a Jagmaster but a current model Jagmaster neck won't work on a strat ?

serfx · Post by **serfx** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 7:16 am

it will you just need to reintonate. and possibly get a bit longer screws

Sano · Post by **Sano** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:24 am

I'll take another look, but it looks like a half inch the saddles will need to be moved towards the neck... the height screws will be setting on the bridge plate screws.

I may be wrong, but I don't think so...we'll see. I dig the JM neck and would be stoked if it works and I can still use the trem.

porterhaus · Post by **porterhaus** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:38 am

A hard-tail strat bridge has enough intonation adjustment.

A tremolo strat bridge does not.

Sparky · Post by **Sparky** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 6:56 pm

porterhaus wrote:A hard-tail strat bridge has enough intonation adjustment.

A tremolo strat bridge does not.

Tell that to my Strat!

Though, to be fair, a few of the saddles have the screws removed and stay in place solely by string tension. It sounds ghetto, but it's stable as fuck.

honeyiscool · Post by **honeyiscool** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 7:20 pm

This is why I don't like it when people call it a conversion neck. It's not really a conversion neck. It's just a 21-fret 24" scale neck that some 25.5" scale guitars can accomodate. A true 21-fret conversion neck would have overhang on the fingerboard so that it could be intonated with the same bridge position as a standard 25.5" neck.

porterhaus · Post by **porterhaus** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 7:47 pm

Sparky, I don't doubt your results. However, every strat I have tried this on (or measured) would require at least some of the saddles to be off the edge of the bridge and on to the guitar top in order to have perfect intonation.

honeyiscool wrote:This is why I don't like it when people call it a conversion neck. It's not really a conversion neck. It's just a 21-fret 24" scale neck that some 25.5" scale guitars can accomodate. A true 21-fret conversion neck would have overhang on the fingerboard so that it could be intonated with the same bridge position as a standard 25.5" neck.

I agree, it is somewhat misleading to call them a true conversion neck. They are slightly too long.

The overhang is one way to build one. But, it is feasible to trim a small amount off the end of these necks. There is just about enough room between the end of the neck and the last fret. But that takes some work, and lots of patience.

Sparky · Post by **Sparky** » Sat Apr 09, 2011 12:03 am

honeyiscool wrote:This is why I don't like it when people call it a conversion neck. It's not really a conversion neck. It's just a 21-fret 24" scale neck that some 25.5" scale guitars can accomodate. A true 21-fret conversion neck would have overhang on the fingerboard so that it could be intonated with the same bridge position as a standard 25.5" neck.

It converts a guitar that's normall 25.5" scale into a guitar that's now approximately a 24" scale instrument. A standard Jaguar/Mustang neck would not intonate because it's calibrated for the specific bridge distance. This frets on Jagmaster II necks are spaced like a 25.5" neck with a nut where the first fret would be. Also, fret overhang is a completely optional component on a neck.

Sano · Post by **Sano** » Sat Apr 09, 2011 1:46 am

Ok then, I'll just forget it.

I don't see any sense in having my Callaham trem if I can't use it. And I don't want to mod the JM neck.

Sparky · Post by **Sparky** » Sat Apr 09, 2011 3:13 am

Sano wrote:Ok then, I'll just forget it.

I don't see any sense in having my Callaham trem if I can't use it. And I don't want to mod the JM neck.

You could probably still use it, you might just need screws that are just a tad longer like serfx said. But you might not; won't know until you try it.

SKC Willie · Post by **SKC Willie** » Sat Apr 09, 2011 5:01 am

honeyiscool wrote:This is why I don't like it when people call it a conversion neck. It's not really a conversion neck. It's just a 21-fret 24" scale neck that some 25.5" scale guitars can accomodate. A true 21-fret conversion neck would have overhang on the fingerboard so that it could be intonated with the same bridge position as a standard 25.5" neck.

so, it allows 'some 25.5" scale guitars' to switch to 24" and intonate (with some minor adjustments)?

it sounds a lot like the neck is CONVERTING A 25.5 TO 24!!!! what else would you call it? a changing scale neck?