Anyone heard of Fandel?

plaidbeer · Post by **plaidbeer** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:00 am

I had a trade offer for my BT Jazzmaster by a guy willing to trade his Fandel Ric 330 copy. I can't do it, though as he's in Iowa and I would want to be able to try it out before agreeing to any sort of deal. Have any of you ever heard of this Ric clone or had a chance to play one?

hotrodperlmutter · Post by **hotrodperlmutter** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 2:09 am

have you ever heard of putting your blacktop jazzmaster FSoT on shortscale.org?

plaidbeer · Post by **plaidbeer** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 2:16 am

hotrodperlmutter wrote:have you ever heard of putting your blacktop jazzmaster FSoT on shortscale.org?

I can't afford to do a bro-deal right now. Money is very tight and what I make from the sale will go towards buying either a Casino or Sheraton.

SKC Willie · Post by **SKC Willie** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 2:53 am

plaidbeer wrote:
hotrodperlmutter wrote:have you ever heard of putting your blacktop jazzmaster FSoT on shortscale.org?
I can't afford to do a bro-deal right now. Money is very tight and what I make from the sale will go towards buying either a Casino or Sheraton.

I'll trade you a sweet dot for it.

Ankhanu · Post by **Ankhanu** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:09 am

Never heard of them, sorry :/

plaidbeer wrote:I can't afford to do a bro-deal right now. Money is very tight and what I make from the sale will go towards buying ...

I'm in exactly the same boat with selling my Hellcat VI. Money's tight and I need as much as possible from selling it to fund buying an Ultra VI. Bro-deals would just fuck me over, as awesome as they are for the recipient.

plaidbeer · Post by **plaidbeer** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:20 am

portugalwillie wrote:
plaidbeer wrote:
hotrodperlmutter wrote:have you ever heard of putting your blacktop jazzmaster FSoT on shortscale.org?
I can't afford to do a bro-deal right now. Money is very tight and what I make from the sale will go towards buying either a Casino or Sheraton.

I'll trade you a sweet dot for it.

I appreciate the offer, but I'd really like a Sheraton or Casino. I've actually had two others locally offer to trade Dots (not the Studio). I had one person who seemed really interested...for a tire kicker.

plaidbeer · Post by **plaidbeer** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:22 am

Ankhanu wrote:Never heard of them, sorry :/

plaidbeer wrote:I can't afford to do a bro-deal right now. Money is very tight and what I make from the sale will go towards buying ...
I'm in exactly the same boat with selling my Hellcat VI. Money's tight and I need as much as possible from selling it to fund buying an Ultra VI. Bro-deals would just fuck me over, as awesome as they are for the recipient.

I'd like to do bro-deals in the future because that's one of the really cool things about this forum and gives it a real community feel. I've never seen bro-deals on any other forum, really.

Ankhanu · Post by **Ankhanu** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:29 am

Exactly.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:31 am

http://www.newlifeauctions.com/calc.html

Good way to calculate what you actually GET from an ebay sale. You can offer a guitar for quite a few bucks less than it'll do on ebay and still break even. BRODEALZ

westtexasred · Post by **westtexasred** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:54 am

I think the Fandel Rickenbacker copies were made in Japan in the 70s. Here is a Fandel Bass

Nick · Post by **Nick** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:56 am

That's actually quite cool.

westtexasred · Post by **westtexasred** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 4:28 am

I think they were made in the same factory that made guitars for Ibanez

plaidbeer · Post by **plaidbeer** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 4:58 am

According to his info, it was made in the Tokai factory in 1971. Here's the pic:

Lucamo · Post by **Lucamo** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 6:56 am

|That is really really hot.

timhulio · Post by **timhulio** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 7:55 am

Looks nifty, but worth much less than a new blacktop jazzmaster.

James · Post by **James** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:15 pm

Bro deals aren't obligatory. You can charge what you like. As a guide the most you'd charge is a little less than what that item tends to go for on ebay but the price you set is up to you. If you charge a ridiculous price people well likely tell you so, but you aren't forced to sell things cheaply.

+1 on what Tim said. It looks nice but copies like that don't command big prices unless there's a well known name on the top (Ibanez, Tokai, Greco etc.). It doesn't matter if it's exactly the same as an Ibanez one but with a different badge on the headstock, it can still be worth half the price because like everything, these things are only worth what someone is willing to pay and an unknown name carries a risk (as you well know while you consider one yourself).

I have an ES175 copy that is seemingly identical (I've owned two, though years apart, and have compared a lot of pics online) to ones made by Greco and Ibanez. The well known brands can easily fetch Â£700+, whereas mine is worth more like Â£400 or so. If I were to sell it I couldn't ask the Ibanez prices even if the guitar is identical because whoever buys it will face the resale problem of a lesser known brand and that's what holds the value down.

westtexasred · Post by **westtexasred** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:34 pm

The problem with Rickenbacker copies is they are hard to resell if you don't like it. If you put an ad on Ebay it will get pulled by Rickenbacker,Craigslist too.

ekwatts · Post by **ekwatts** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 6:37 pm

Rickenbacker are like a German Gibson, but even bigger cunts and make much better guitars.

benecol · Post by **benecol** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 7:01 pm

Rickenbacker are American.

ekwatts · Post by **ekwatts** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:05 pm

Oh yeah, just googled it. Not sure why I've always thought of them as German?

I still don't understand the business practice of pulling any auctions or second hand sales of their guitars, though. Why would a company do that?