NPD: Eau Clauire Thunder

aen · Post by **aen** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 6:28 pm

You're probably slamming the input of the ECT. It doesnt have a whole lot of headroom, which is why the "trim" is on there. You could also dial that back, and see if the booster works better for you.

sp3k · Post by **sp3k** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 6:38 pm

The ect is my last dirt pedal in the chain, and when having a dirt pedal that has lots of bass into it makes it "weaker", this also happens when the pedals before it are cutting some of the guitars volume.
The ect sounds better with more bright and treably pedals before it, a reverb before it also sounds really good. i don't think it sounds good with anything after, maybe a booster just for a bit more volume, but that's it.

endsjustifymeans · Post by **endsjustifymeans** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 6:41 pm

sp3k wrote:The ect is my last dirt pedal in the chain, and when having a dirt pedal that has lots of bass into it makes it "weaker", this also happens when the pedals before it are cutting some of the guitars volume.
The ect sounds better with more bright and treably pedals before it, a reverb before it also sounds really good. i don't think it sounds good with anything after, maybe a booster just for a bit more volume, but that's it.

I run all of my modulation effects after it quite happily. A green ringer behind it is also nusto splatty mental awesome.

aen · Post by **aen** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 6:47 pm

I have my microsynth after the ECT/hair of the dog/baby thundaa. That sucks. Defo going to correct that when my new pedalbaord arrives (TONIGHT!) But then I have delays and reverb after that, too.

avj · Post by **avj** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:00 pm

aen wrote:I have my microsynth after the ECT/hair of the dog/baby thundaa. That sucks. Defo going to correct that when my new pedalbaord arrives (TONIGHT!) But then I have delays and reverb after that, too.

I've had a hell of a time figuring out where to put my MicroSynth. I have it before all drive shit, but I'm thinking some light compression before it will give it a more consistent level for triggering.

And I'm sure you knew this already, but if not, there's a trimpot inside (TRIM1, I think) to adjust the preamp gain.

ekwatts · Post by **ekwatts** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:22 pm

A compressor before a microsynth is pretty much a necessity. I don't think it really works properly without it. I use it first in the chain set to just an octave up with a huge filter range and low trigger and run that through the French Toast. Sounds really, really good for lead sounds.

aen · Post by **aen** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:26 pm

ekwatts wrote:A compressor before a microsynth is pretty much a necessity. I don't think it really works properly without it. I use it first in the chain set to just an octave up with a huge filter range and low trigger and run that through the French Toast. Sounds really, really good for lead sounds.

I haven't been using the sweep (so far) just the octave and squarewave effects. But the fuzz before just turns it into a shit show.

ekwatts · Post by **ekwatts** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:33 pm

Pretty much nothing at all works before the MS apart from a compressor. Same with the POG. The way I view it is that the POG and MS fundamentally change the sound of the guitar, so they're sort of like instruments of their own so they always sit at the start of the chain. My board is currently like this: Microsynth > POG > Bass booster > French Toast > Flanger > Delay > Reverb.

sp3k · Post by **sp3k** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:34 pm

endsjustifymeans wrote:
sp3k wrote:The ect is my last dirt pedal in the chain, and when having a dirt pedal that has lots of bass into it makes it "weaker", this also happens when the pedals before it are cutting some of the guitars volume.
The ect sounds better with more bright and treably pedals before it, a reverb before it also sounds really good. i don't think it sounds good with anything after, maybe a booster just for a bit more volume, but that's it.
I run all of my modulation effects after it quite happily. A green ringer behind it is also nusto splatty mental awesome.

I was talking about other dirt after it, i only use reverb before, everything else is after. My mistake.

SGJarrod · Post by **SGJarrod** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:37 pm

Watts....

Are u using ur amps dirt or just the French Toast....what r u using for an amp?

avj · Post by **avj** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:40 pm

ekwatts wrote:Pretty much nothing at all works before the MS apart from a compressor. Same with the POG. The way I view it is that the POG and MS fundamentally change the sound of the guitar, so they're sort of like instruments of their own so they always sit at the start of the chain. My board is currently like this: Microsynth > POG > Bass booster > French Toast > Flanger > Delay > Reverb.

Interesting. I've got the POG2 before the MS for crazy filtered Rhodes sounds, but the other way around would be pretty killer too.

ekwatts · Post by **ekwatts** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:46 pm

I mostly use this setup with a practice amp, so no amp distortion there, just the French Toast (which I may be replacing with a Tone Wicker Big Muff in a few days) but when I get the chance to play through my classic 30 I usually have a fair bit of grit dialled in on there. I'm not really a clean player at all. If the distortion isn't on all the time then I'll probably have some other massively tone-obscuring pedal on instead.

I'd never thought to stick the POG before the Microsynth.. might give that a go.

sp3k · Post by **sp3k** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:53 pm

ekwatts wrote: (which I may be replacing with a Tone Wicker Big Muff in a few days)

I would try a bass big muff if i were you. I've played both many times, and the bass big muff is really great. Actually is my favorite current electro harmonix muff.

taylornutt · Post by **taylornutt** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:07 pm

aen wrote:I have my microsynth after the ECT/hair of the dog/baby thundaa. That sucks. Defo going to correct that when my new pedalbaord arrives (TONIGHT!) But then I have delays and reverb after that, too.

What pedal board are you getting?

taylornutt · Post by **taylornutt** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:08 pm

aen wrote:You're probably slamming the input of the ECT. It doesnt have a whole lot of headroom, which is why the "trim" is on there. You could also dial that back, and see if the booster works better for you.

That info helps. I will try the trim knob and flipping the pedal order when I get home. It's cool when the pedal maker can diagnose the problem for you.

SGJarrod · Post by **SGJarrod** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:10 pm

I assume the trim adjusts the input impedence?

dorfmeister · Post by **dorfmeister** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 8:52 am

Had an ECT for a while and liked it best with the input gain dialed back. I found a lot of lower gain sounds I liked quite a bit out of this pedal.

Post by **Doog** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 9:55 am

Despite my M9 making most distortion pedals redundant for me, the Eau Claire Thunder is still on my list.

Aen, will you make one all special for your ol' pal Dewg?

aen · Post by **aen** » Sun May 01, 2011 1:38 am

Doog wrote:Despite my M9 making most distortion pedals redundant for me, the Eau Claire Thunder is still on my list.

Aen, will you make one all special for your ol' pal Dewg?

If I can put the cat on it, yes.

endsjustifymeans · Post by **endsjustifymeans** » Sun May 01, 2011 2:47 am

Devi already made kittah pedal.