i hate auto tuners

gaybear · Post by **gaybear** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 7:42 pm

on vocals for the most part.

it's kinda the same feel as over compression on drums

Sloan · Post by **Sloan** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:17 pm

gaybear wrote:on vocals for the most part.

it's kinda the same feel as over compression on drums

werdz.

gaybear · Post by **gaybear** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:20 pm

it seems to get rid of any of the, i dunno what to call em, "soul" notes?

More Cowbell · Post by **More Cowbell** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:34 pm

http://download.yousendit.com/92195CA732864C8B

we tried to use autotune on the ex-singer of my band, it wouldn't work because he's flat then sharp.

listen to the above and you'll know what I mean.

nothing will help him.

gaybear · Post by **gaybear** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:40 pm

haha, i actually don't mind the vocals too much on that. well, when he's not holding out notes. the louder and shorter his vocals are, the better. reminds me of old east bay stuff.

Aug · Post by **Aug** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:49 pm

I find it much easier to just sing in tune.

More Cowbell · Post by **More Cowbell** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:50 pm

gaybear wrote:haha, i actually don't mind the vocals too much on that. well, when he's not holding out notes. the louder and shorter his vocals are, the better. reminds me of old east bay stuff.

thats what we were in the day...old east bay hardcore kids.

Yeah, he's a better hardcore singer, he can't hold a note for shit, but thats also due to all the years playing hardcore shows and practices without earplugs! All that solidstate distortion will kill your hearing! 100W heads and cabs!

and I was made fun of because I wore earplugs and still do! I tell them I want to be able to hear what I sounded like back in the day when I'm old and grey.

More Cowbell · Post by **More Cowbell** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:51 pm

Aug wrote:I find it much easier to just sing in tune.

science.

ultratwin · Post by **ultratwin** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:23 pm

Auto-tune is one of my pop recording... I mean used to be one of my pop recording secrets until this thread. Not for keeping Harvey in tune, but for colorization.

1. Double track your favorite Beach Boys' Ooo Laa Laa Laa line. Cross your fingers that it's relatively in tune.

2. Set auto tune for "auto"(as opposed to "graphic") at a slow correction rate, between 30-50.

3. Hard pan the Wilson bros Left and Right. sit back and enjoy.

What happens is that the two tracks will line up and you'll get a spectacular amount of harmonics ringing in all over the place, without sounding like a paranoid android. The key is slow correction that keeps both tone and attack somewhat human. The best thing you could do to a backing track, IMO. But CB is right. Technology can't help everyone.

aen · Post by **aen** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 5:23 am

Thats the kind of shit I NEVER think of. I usually just stumble onto new ways to make absurd noise.

theshadowofseattle · Post by **theshadowofseattle** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:20 am

"It kinda sounds like a robot dying."
"THAT'S THE NEW ALBUM THEN, MAN!"

More Cowbell · Post by **More Cowbell** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 12:36 pm

ultratwin wrote:Auto-tune is one of my pop recording... I mean used to be one of my pop recording secrets until this thread. Not for keeping Harvey in tune, but for colorization.

1. Double track your favorite Beach Boys' Ooo Laa Laa Laa line. Cross your fingers that it's relatively in tune.

2. Set auto tune for "auto"(as opposed to "graphic") at a slow correction rate, between 30-50.

3. Hard pan the Wilson bros Left and Right. sit back and enjoy.

What happens is that the two tracks will line up and you'll get a spectacular amount of harmonics ringing in all over the place, without sounding like a paranoid android. The key is slow correction that keeps both tone and attack somewhat human. The best thing you could do to a backing track, IMO. But CB is right. Technology can't help everyone.

your using it the way it should be used, not to fix a bad singer.

although that was its intended idea as a software program was to fix sour notes i believe.

to fix an out of tune vocal you could just use a pitch shift and put the main vox in the middle, then send it to the pitchshift detuned and put it to the left of the main vocal, then send another to a pitch shift sharp and put it right of the main vox and it will hide the sour notes a bit too.

Post by **dots** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 5:04 pm

auto-tune is bad. i prefer to get the notes myself, but if there's a time-crunch during mixing, a slide here or there doesn't offend me tooooo much.

Al_ · Post by **Al_** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 5:08 pm

I've used the waves Tune LT to detune a backup vocal--take it down a couple of octaves. It's cool for that type of stuff.

gaybear · Post by **gaybear** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:16 pm

that's kinda cool. if you take it down octaves does it affect speed?

Post by **dots** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:17 pm

nope.

Sloan · Post by **Sloan** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:44 pm

That's what all the rappers seem to really like nowadays - that pitch changer that doesn't mess with speed. I have to listen to my friend's raps music and i've been hearing that a lot recently.

SpectralJulian · Post by **SpectralJulian** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:55 pm

aen wrote:Thats the kind of shit I NEVER think of. I usually just stumble onto new ways to make absurd noise.

theshadowofseattle wrote:"It kinda sounds like a robot dying."
"THAT'S THE NEW ALBUM THEN, MAN!"

Sounds like the way I write/record. Today I was screaming into a guitar pickup instead of using a microphone. Really freaky sounding vocals.

aen · Post by **aen** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:05 am

SpectralJulian wrote:
aen wrote:Thats the kind of shit I NEVER think of. I usually just stumble onto new ways to make absurd noise.

theshadowofseattle wrote:"It kinda sounds like a robot dying."
"THAT'S THE NEW ALBUM THEN, MAN!"
Sounds like the way I write/record. Today I was screaming into a guitar pickup instead of using a microphone. Really freaky sounding vocals.

I recorded rums through the bridge PU in my telecaster, and put that shit through a ring mod and a big muff.

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