Cyclone and Squier Super Sonic tuner upgrade

bubbastain · Post by **bubbastain** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 5:48 pm

I want to upgrade the tuners on my Fender Cyclone and Squier Super Sonic. A few of the pegs rattle on the Cyclone and one will even pull off. Plus I don't feel they hold the tuning as well as they could even after a pro setup. I use 10-60 strings and tune to Drop C. Trem is blocked also. I was thinking the Sperzel locking tuners might be cool. I'm sure I'll have to drill holes but I don't want unused holes showing. Would be nice if any new holes would be covered up if I were to put the original tuners back on too. Anyone with personal experience?

Post by **dots** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 8:27 pm

i've used sperzels before, and i think schaller has a MUCH superior locking tuner. just a thought, though, if you've got the trem blocked, you shouldn't need a locking tuner unless you're doing some crazy bends all the time. . . even then, maybe not. at any rate, i'd try some good klusons first, and go with the schallers if the need for locking is definite.

poorhillbilly · Post by **poorhillbilly** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:01 am

go with sperzels, they look amazing and I doubt they arn't that modest to call themselves ''Worlds Finest Guitar Machine Heads'' for nothing. and you can get any colour, in any design.

molokoplus · Post by **molokoplus** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:37 pm

I've replaced mine with lefty Gotoh vintage locking tuners, which required no drilling, and look great as well! I've done it for Cyclone II, and Super-Sonic.

Post by **dots** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:36 pm

poorhillbilly wrote:go with sperzels, they look amazing and I doubt they arn't that modest to call themselves ''Worlds Finest Guitar Machine Heads'' for nothing. and you can get any colour, in any design.

they do look cool, and i would say the non-locking sperzels have among the smoothest movement you can get. however, have you tried their locking models? the dial itself has a very thin edge on it that kinda digs in at your fingertips as you twist. the schallers are easily two or three times thicker and textured in such a way that there is no discomfort when you lock the string.

function over form any day of the week. . . not that the schallers don't look great because they actually do.

paul_ · Post by **paul_** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:11 pm

poorhillbilly wrote:I doubt they arn't that modest to call themselves ''Worlds Finest Guitar Machine Heads'' for nothing.

Then why don't The Rolling Stones (greatest rock 'n' roll band in the world) or Gibson (the only one that's good enough) use them? You'd think these 3 would get together and just rule the planet.

robroe · Post by **robroe** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:30 pm

what are you guys doing with all these wasted slotheads??
send that shit to me!

bubbastain · Post by **bubbastain** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:31 am

I guess I don't really need locking tuners. Never had them and thought it might be nice. I do want smooth and accurate turning. I don't want to enlarge the shaft holes. Looks don't really matter.

poorhillbilly · Post by **poorhillbilly** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:41 am

paul_ wrote:
poorhillbilly wrote:I doubt they arn't that modest to call themselves ''Worlds Finest Guitar Machine Heads'' for nothing.
Then why don't The Rolling Stones (greatest rock 'n' roll band in the world) or Gibson (the only one that's good enough) use them? You'd think these 3 would get together and just rule the planet.

The rolling stones are the best Rock and roll band on the planet and i'm whitlers teresa.

Sperzels are cheap too.

Billy3000 · Post by **Billy3000** » Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:38 pm

I have a set of sperzels on my MIA strat and I like them. But dots is right, the locking mechanism does kind of dig into your finger tips when you tighten them. I usually will use a rag to help tighten them, and loosen them when I change strings so that they don't hurt my fingers. They look nice and didn't require much drilling. They fit right in place of the old stock tuners, except that they have an extra little piece of plastic on the underside that sits in the back of the headstock to hold them in place, and I had to drill a tiny hole for each one just for that, but it wasn't anything much.