Jaguar Special HH MIJ vs CP Jaguar HH MIM
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Jaguar Special HH MIJ vs CP Jaguar HH MIM
Hi guys
Finally I get cash for my second shortscale guitar and my dream guitar which is Fender Jaguar.
I'm thinking about getting one of these
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But i really don't know which one to choose. Can you guys give me some advice?
I play mostly punk rock stuff, strum really hard, my main guitar now is 78 Musicmaster which neck is amazing for me (even if I'm tall person with big hands ;p)
Finally I get cash for my second shortscale guitar and my dream guitar which is Fender Jaguar.
I'm thinking about getting one of these
OR
But i really don't know which one to choose. Can you guys give me some advice?
I play mostly punk rock stuff, strum really hard, my main guitar now is 78 Musicmaster which neck is amazing for me (even if I'm tall person with big hands ;p)
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if you strum really hard, the adjustomatic on both guitars would probably be helpful.
it's all really going to come down to whether or not you plan to use the vibrato.
have you played either guitar? i think the pickups in the MIM are probably better, but i bet the necks would be similar (except the japanese one will have much more glozz). although, i'm almost certain that neither neck will resemble your musicmaster (my '78 is quite clubby).
it's all really going to come down to whether or not you plan to use the vibrato.
have you played either guitar? i think the pickups in the MIM are probably better, but i bet the necks would be similar (except the japanese one will have much more glozz). although, i'm almost certain that neither neck will resemble your musicmaster (my '78 is quite clubby).
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The neck on the MIM is super chunky, the MIJ neck is a dream neck. Based on that alone I'd go for the MIJ, though you miss out on the trem. For punk rock I'd rather have the stop tail anyway.
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For punk rock I'd say the MIJ Special would suit better. The hard tail bridge makes it its own instrument and neck, fit, and finish is top notch. A lot of people do not like the Dragster pickups, myself included, but for punk rock who knows maybe it will be just right.
My #2 guitar is a CIJ Special, just a bit modded
My #2 guitar is a CIJ Special, just a bit modded
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I was in a similar situation a couple years back. I was convinced I wanted the white CP Jag HH and i had also played the CIJ Jag HH.
CP Jaguar HH still has the trem, and the coil tap while the CIJ has the traditional Jaguar wiring with the rhythm circuit and the amazing 7.25" radius neck. Plays like butta.
Whichever one you buy, you will probably need a pickup change. The Enforcers in the CP Jag HH don't sound particularly good in Humbucker or tapped mode. The Dragsters pickups only sound good when Andy from PGS plays them. I personally lean a little towards the CIJ Jag Special because the neck is awesome and they can be easily found used. Both are great guitars and I would love to own them both.
This guy took the Mini Wide Range enforcer pups out of a Pawnshop Mustang and put them in a CP Jag HH. Sounded great. Loved the pups out of that guitar.
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CP Jaguar HH still has the trem, and the coil tap while the CIJ has the traditional Jaguar wiring with the rhythm circuit and the amazing 7.25" radius neck. Plays like butta.
Whichever one you buy, you will probably need a pickup change. The Enforcers in the CP Jag HH don't sound particularly good in Humbucker or tapped mode. The Dragsters pickups only sound good when Andy from PGS plays them. I personally lean a little towards the CIJ Jag Special because the neck is awesome and they can be easily found used. Both are great guitars and I would love to own them both.
This guy took the Mini Wide Range enforcer pups out of a Pawnshop Mustang and put them in a CP Jag HH. Sounded great. Loved the pups out of that guitar.
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Haze, I am surprised the AVRI Jag pup is still there. I thought you would have put another PRail in by now.Haze wrote:For punk rock I'd say the MIJ Special would suit better. The hard tail bridge makes it its own instrument and neck, fit, and finish is top notch. A lot of people do not like the Dragster pickups, myself included, but for punk rock who knows maybe it will be just right.
My #2 guitar is a CIJ Special, just a bit modded
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Jaguar Special HH MIJ vs CP Jaguar HH MIM
Hi Secretsister,
I was in two minds also. Though my other choise was the blacktop jag which have alnico pups fitted, as opposed to the jag special hh which have ceramics. I chose the later because of the features on it but I much prefered the sound of the blacktop.
I bought a bareknuckle crawler neck pup and had it fitted to my guitar. This has taken the brittleness of somewhat. I have more sustain and more defined note seperation. But, it's still too bright for my taste. I'm dissapointed to say the least.
I have two weeks to get a refund (-15%). Trouble is, the guy who works on my guitars has gone on holiday for a week.
To day a thought came to me. I was wondering if my guitar had 1meg pots. Reading a few posts I see that it probebly has. When my techie comes back, I've got about two days to play with before deciding wether to send the pup back. So in this time I'll get some 500k pots put in and hopefully my neck pup will sound better. If it does, I'll get a crawler bridge fitted.
If this plan fails, I've dicovered a website where I can get the fender vintage hot alnico v pups from. They will cost me about £80, not bad at all. How ever they will take about 6 to 8 weeks to get to the UK.
I'll keep you posted if you're interested.
Steady as you go ---- limeypip
I was in two minds also. Though my other choise was the blacktop jag which have alnico pups fitted, as opposed to the jag special hh which have ceramics. I chose the later because of the features on it but I much prefered the sound of the blacktop.
I bought a bareknuckle crawler neck pup and had it fitted to my guitar. This has taken the brittleness of somewhat. I have more sustain and more defined note seperation. But, it's still too bright for my taste. I'm dissapointed to say the least.
I have two weeks to get a refund (-15%). Trouble is, the guy who works on my guitars has gone on holiday for a week.
To day a thought came to me. I was wondering if my guitar had 1meg pots. Reading a few posts I see that it probebly has. When my techie comes back, I've got about two days to play with before deciding wether to send the pup back. So in this time I'll get some 500k pots put in and hopefully my neck pup will sound better. If it does, I'll get a crawler bridge fitted.
If this plan fails, I've dicovered a website where I can get the fender vintage hot alnico v pups from. They will cost me about £80, not bad at all. How ever they will take about 6 to 8 weeks to get to the UK.
I'll keep you posted if you're interested.
Steady as you go ---- limeypip
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CIJ is not 7.25. I can back this up, it's much flatter tham my 78 stang. it does feel thin, flat, and easy to play. the fretwork on mine was excellent. very low action if you set it up right.
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CIJ Jaguar HH is definitely 7.25" fretboard radius. The neck is almost identical to my AVRI Jaguar neck, except mine has a nitro finish. Comparing it to your 78' stang will make it seem flatter by casual observation, but late 70's Mustangs necks tend to be pretty chunky. The "B" profile neck on my 78' Musicmaster feels more rounded than my AVRI Jaguar, but that is more the difference between the neck profiles not the fretboard radius. The vintage fretboard radius is my favorite and what draws me to this guitar over other Modern Jaguars that are available on the market.astrozombie wrote:CIJ is not 7.25. I can back this up, it's much flatter tham my 78 stang. it does feel thin, flat, and easy to play. the fretwork on mine was excellent. very low action if you set it up right.
Andy can probably explain it better than I can.
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+100taylornutt wrote:The vintage fretboard radius is my favorite and what draws me to this guitar over other Modern Jaguars that are available on the market.
If they made a hardtail HH Mustang similar to this one but without the dumb Pawn Shop stylings, I'd be all over it.
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