I remember reading that the Microsynth can't actually be daisychained. I also have a Ring Thing which has a 9.4v power supply or something and I run it off its own psu as well. Could this be daisychained, either on my Godlyke or Johnny Shredfreak? It's digital and the dedicated PSU I use currently puts out 200MA so the draw must be a bit lower than that. I'm only really running a digital delay, a flanger, a bass booster, a Big Muff and a reverb off the Johnny Shredfreak unit currently. Is anything stopping me chucking the Ring Thing in there? I'm not sure why I haven't even tried it, I think somebody might have warned me about it or I'm just being overly cautious.
Also, why doesn't the Microsynth work in a daisychain? I've never tried it but I'm sure I've read it somewhere.
Some pedals can't daisychain, right?
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Some pedals can't daisychain, right?
Brandon W wrote:you elites.
Hmmm, someone really should put together a thread listing the different power needs of different pedals, drawing particular attention to ones that need their own supply or aren't daisychainable. It'd be a handy resource and would stop threads like this from cropping up (not that these threads are any way frequent enough to be a nuisance, but still).
Here are a few pertinent points relative to daisy-chaining pedals:
1) If it's a digital pedal, it may introduce additional noise if it doesn't have it's own isolated power source (ex: Electro-Harmonix Holy Grail (original version))
2) There is a certain amount of math to be done relative to what power supply you are using to daisy chain off of. Let's say for example you are using the standard Boss PSA one. Well that supplies 200ma, if you try to daisy chain that to 8 pedals (including some digital ones) it may not function properly because you might run out of amperage. A 1-Spot adapter claims to provide 1700ma, and that is quite a lot. Line 6 Modeler pedals use ~350ma, so if you plan to run 5 of those you would be out of luck.
3) Voltage amount considerations: Are all the pedals you are daisy chaining 9v? (Some pedals like the Fulltone MDV-2 run off of 18v and will not run as intended off of 9v)
4) Are they all DC-powered? Some pedals like the Whammy-series are AC-powered and you will almost certainly damage a pedal if you use an AC supply on a DC pedal or vice versa.
5) Are they all negative ground pedals? Some pedals (like most Tonebenders, and many Fuzz Faces) are positive ground and will not work with a negative tip power supply and it may cause damage to the pedal if daisy chained.
@ekwatts: if your current power supply is 9.4v, that should be fine to run off of a "9v" adapter. The Boss power supply actually puts out 9.6v for what it's worth. Although I just looked at the manual for the "Ring Thing" and they say it runs off a 9.6v as well, but draws 190ma. So you would have to make sure that the power adapter you are using the daisy chain with has enough amperage to cover the other pedals (also note that since the Ring Thing is digital, excessive noise may be introduced by daisy chaining it).
I tried to bring up the current draw for the Micro Synth, but couldn't find that. My guess why it doesn't work is either that there is not enough amperage to cover it, or since it's digital, extra noise is introduced when it's daisy chained.
@plaidbeer: I believe I heard the Magicstomp is daisychainable with one of these (http://www.visualsound.net/index.php/pr ... amaha_cyr1). I would double-check though.
1) If it's a digital pedal, it may introduce additional noise if it doesn't have it's own isolated power source (ex: Electro-Harmonix Holy Grail (original version))
2) There is a certain amount of math to be done relative to what power supply you are using to daisy chain off of. Let's say for example you are using the standard Boss PSA one. Well that supplies 200ma, if you try to daisy chain that to 8 pedals (including some digital ones) it may not function properly because you might run out of amperage. A 1-Spot adapter claims to provide 1700ma, and that is quite a lot. Line 6 Modeler pedals use ~350ma, so if you plan to run 5 of those you would be out of luck.
3) Voltage amount considerations: Are all the pedals you are daisy chaining 9v? (Some pedals like the Fulltone MDV-2 run off of 18v and will not run as intended off of 9v)
4) Are they all DC-powered? Some pedals like the Whammy-series are AC-powered and you will almost certainly damage a pedal if you use an AC supply on a DC pedal or vice versa.
5) Are they all negative ground pedals? Some pedals (like most Tonebenders, and many Fuzz Faces) are positive ground and will not work with a negative tip power supply and it may cause damage to the pedal if daisy chained.
@ekwatts: if your current power supply is 9.4v, that should be fine to run off of a "9v" adapter. The Boss power supply actually puts out 9.6v for what it's worth. Although I just looked at the manual for the "Ring Thing" and they say it runs off a 9.6v as well, but draws 190ma. So you would have to make sure that the power adapter you are using the daisy chain with has enough amperage to cover the other pedals (also note that since the Ring Thing is digital, excessive noise may be introduced by daisy chaining it).
I tried to bring up the current draw for the Micro Synth, but couldn't find that. My guess why it doesn't work is either that there is not enough amperage to cover it, or since it's digital, extra noise is introduced when it's daisy chained.
@plaidbeer: I believe I heard the Magicstomp is daisychainable with one of these (http://www.visualsound.net/index.php/pr ... amaha_cyr1). I would double-check though.
Just happend across this (old) thread while looking for something else and the point made about daisychaining digital pedals made me think - I currently daisychain a mix of analog and digital pedals off two power supplies, would it make a difference to rejig things so the digital and analog pedals run off different PSUs?
I know I could just suck it and see but it's quite the rewiring job and so if the consensus is no, I probably won't bother. Noise on my board is not a massive issue but I could always go for less.
I know I could just suck it and see but it's quite the rewiring job and so if the consensus is no, I probably won't bother. Noise on my board is not a massive issue but I could always go for less.
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TheGigRig have a list that's pretty comprehensive. Basically, anything on there that they recommend should be used with one of their adaptors might present a problem. Diago have compiled a list of their own for people using their Powerstation.
It's a perennial bugbear, this. Boss pedals are usually fine (apart from their twin ones, e.g. the RE-20) unless it's an old 'un. EHX reverbs are a pain. The main issue is the fact that to get isolated power AND enough current (most of the 'problematic' pedals are quite thirsty) you have to spend rather a lot.
My best compromise was to use the Diago and daisy-chains (which can deliver the current) and use the relevant GigRig adaptor for the problem pedals. It's the best of both worlds, without the issues of either (namely the non-isolated nature of daisy-chains and the high RRP of TheGigRig stuff).
It's a perennial bugbear, this. Boss pedals are usually fine (apart from their twin ones, e.g. the RE-20) unless it's an old 'un. EHX reverbs are a pain. The main issue is the fact that to get isolated power AND enough current (most of the 'problematic' pedals are quite thirsty) you have to spend rather a lot.
My best compromise was to use the Diago and daisy-chains (which can deliver the current) and use the relevant GigRig adaptor for the problem pedals. It's the best of both worlds, without the issues of either (namely the non-isolated nature of daisy-chains and the high RRP of TheGigRig stuff).
I had that exact problem with a Boss RE-20 and a One-Spot - i ended up getting a separate adapter for the RE-20. Then later on I switch to a Fuel Tank ised one of the isolated outlets for the RE-20.
It would be great if something the Effects Database listed voltage and current draw on all the pedals in their database. When I was choosing my power supply I had to scratch around looking for that info so I could be sure there would be enough mA to power my board.
For reference:
Xotic SP Compressor - 5mA
Lastgasp Art Laboratories Angelring Boost - 3mA
Fulltone OCD Overdrive/Distortion - 7mA
Lastgasp Art Laboratories Type 88 Super-oscillo Fuzz - 2.5mA
Strymon El Capistan Tape Echo - 250mA
SolidgoldFX Surfrider Reverb - 60mA
TC Electronics Polytune Mini - 40mA
It would be great if something the Effects Database listed voltage and current draw on all the pedals in their database. When I was choosing my power supply I had to scratch around looking for that info so I could be sure there would be enough mA to power my board.
For reference:
Xotic SP Compressor - 5mA
Lastgasp Art Laboratories Angelring Boost - 3mA
Fulltone OCD Overdrive/Distortion - 7mA
Lastgasp Art Laboratories Type 88 Super-oscillo Fuzz - 2.5mA
Strymon El Capistan Tape Echo - 250mA
SolidgoldFX Surfrider Reverb - 60mA
TC Electronics Polytune Mini - 40mA