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photo 1 = clay dots 24" scale A width neck

photo 2 = oval white plastic tip kluson's with double line name plate on covers.

photo 3 = L plate

photo 4 = numbers on can date the guitar just as well as the neck plate
186.826 2960900 2741146 3143028 + pat pend date it to late 1964

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photo 5 = trem unit pat pending. chrome almost completely gone off of the tube.
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you need to take photos of the guts. i can tell you if its old or not easily if i get that.

anyone who doesn't want to show you whats under the hood is a liar.



ffs even my 1972 bronco has clay dots.

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also your pickguard is way to brown
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also

YOUR BRIDGE IS ON BACKWARDS.


HAHA ITS GOTTA BUZZ LIKE SHIT
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just for shits and giggles this is my 65RI decal along with the origional guitar.


the RI says "pending" not "pend"

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thats some good detective work, guys :)
I wil stay away from this guitar, but will ask some pics of the guts, just to see what will show up
also the fact, beside all the replacements, that there is no rust on the guitar make me nervous.
On my almost mint 66 coronado, there is rust on stringtree, bridge and every other screw, and the coronado is really mint

thanks a lot!!
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robroe wrote:ffs even my 1972 bronco has clay dots.
i've never seen a post '65 fender with clay dots. they look like dirty pearloid to me.
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Huh. It actually looks like this is a '65 RI that the guy just put an actual vintage neckplate on at this point. That neck has to be a RI neck in light of Rob's post. Everything else looks like a normal '65 RI.
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I've never seen a picture that big. Change your camera or photobucket settings.

grrrr... Your computer must be running so slow...
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Pens wrote:Huh. It actually looks like this is a '65 RI that the guy just put an actual vintage neckplate on at this point. That neck has to be a RI neck in light of Rob's post. Everything else looks like a normal '65 RI.
or it might be one of the older '90s japanese reissues (before the 69RIs came out). regardless, it's not what he says it is.
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othomas2 wrote:my pussy mouth hurts. my computer is made of gram crackers covered in man cheese
im trying to help the fucking dude out by posting detailed photos of my shit so he can compare to this POS that someone is trying to pawn off on him.

i cant even help people out without hearing slag from the peanut gallery. shut the fuck up already
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to be fair, that bronco doesn't have clay dots.
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To be fair, the Decal says Pat Pend like on robroes, and there is no serial where the japanese serials usually are. The neck looks a bit too pale, but that could be just the picture. a neck stamp would clear things up. But the obvious stuff (tuners, pickups, trem plate) is enough to disqualify that guitar as "unaltered original".
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I would stay away because if he is claiming unaltered original hes either clueless or lying and his expectations on price are not going to be anywhere near it being a deal.
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offer him $300 because it's obviously a kids guitar.
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My Jan '65 Mustang headstock says Pat. Pend. and my Nov '65 Mustang headstock says Pat. Pending.
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My Jan '65 Mustang headstock says Pat. Pend. and my Nov '65 Mustang headstock says Pat. Pending.
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Post by robroe »

thats weird.


eric, can you look at the decals on all your mustangs and see if they say PEND or PENDING ?
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The 64 mustang neck I used to have says "Pat. Pend"

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