http://www.digimart.net/images/1000/DS01383277.jpgportugalwillie wrote:that top photo looks great.
I guess it'll look like this.
They all did, so far.
One of the most pale necks I ever saw with Fender/Squier.
Squier Classic Vibe Duo-Sonic FSR (japanese colors)
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I wish that Fender USA would realize there is a market for this type of variety stateside.honeyiscool wrote:My point is that popularity or not, Fender Japan seems to have diversity in all their models. Their Jazzmasters come in several different trimmings, all of seemingly very good quality and close-to-vintage specs, whereas we're limited to models separated more by budget and features than by cosmetic variety.
And they are like... all on this topic71Smallbox wrote:I wish that Fender USA would realize there is a market for this type of variety stateside.honeyiscool wrote:My point is that popularity or not, Fender Japan seems to have diversity in all their models. Their Jazzmasters come in several different trimmings, all of seemingly very good quality and close-to-vintage specs, whereas we're limited to models separated more by budget and features than by cosmetic variety.
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Yeah, I think the point is, the market is there in Japan, not so much in America and elsewhere. Fender isn't dumb. It's a corporation. It's there to make money. The reason why they don't have these things elsewhere is because for whatever reason, it's just not profitable for them to do so, not because they hate guitarists. Sure, there is a market for the stuff, but there is a cost associated with having many different models around, as car companies have found out.
There is a market for fancy Mustangs, and I think dkoor is right when he says they're all here. I mean, let's not kid ourselves. You've posted on other guitar forums, I'm sure. How many people GAS for a Mustang? The Mustang is just not that respected of a guitar outside the shortscale crowd. Having five different models of Mustangs in America would be dumb when the one they have, the excellent '65 RI, has trouble selling, so much that they resell for so little money. Americans largely want black and sunburst Strats and Teles. That's the stuff that sells because only rich people can afford lots of new guitars anyway, and rich people generally want something iconic, i.e. a Strat.
There is a market for fancy Mustangs, and I think dkoor is right when he says they're all here. I mean, let's not kid ourselves. You've posted on other guitar forums, I'm sure. How many people GAS for a Mustang? The Mustang is just not that respected of a guitar outside the shortscale crowd. Having five different models of Mustangs in America would be dumb when the one they have, the excellent '65 RI, has trouble selling, so much that they resell for so little money. Americans largely want black and sunburst Strats and Teles. That's the stuff that sells because only rich people can afford lots of new guitars anyway, and rich people generally want something iconic, i.e. a Strat.
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that's all fair enough, except fender shut down direct exports from japan, so if you want one of what's been posted in this thread you have to pay through the nose for it. it used to be that you could just order from ikebe for a reasonable price. that's the most annoying part.honeyiscool wrote:Yeah, I think the point is, the market is there in Japan, not so much in America and elsewhere. Fender isn't dumb. It's a corporation. It's there to make money. The reason why they don't have these things elsewhere is because for whatever reason, it's just not profitable for them to do so, not because they hate guitarists. Sure, there is a market for the stuff, but there is a cost associated with having many different models around, as car companies have found out.
There is a market for fancy Mustangs, and I think dkoor is right when he says they're all here. I mean, let's not kid ourselves. You've posted on other guitar forums, I'm sure. How many people GAS for a Mustang? The Mustang is just not that respected of a guitar outside the shortscale crowd. Having five different models of Mustangs in America would be dumb when the one they have, the excellent '65 RI, has trouble selling, so much that they resell for so little money. Americans largely want black and sunburst Strats and Teles. That's the stuff that sells because only rich people can afford lots of new guitars anyway, and rich people generally want something iconic, i.e. a Strat.
yeah agreed. also keep in mind that fender japan is essentially a separately operating company than fender USA. so they are not really operating in some grand international scheme. fender USA competes with fender japan all the time. notice that there are japanese websites for both fender japan and the US fender. so they are not just creating products for their particular market as much as they are separately pursuing different product strategies. and in that respect I have to praise fender japan in offering a vastly more interesting line of products.honeyiscool wrote:Yeah, I think the point is, the market is there in Japan, not so much in America and elsewhere. Fender isn't dumb. It's a corporation. It's there to make money. The reason why they don't have these things elsewhere is because for whatever reason, it's just not profitable for them to do so, not because they hate guitarists. Sure, there is a market for the stuff, but there is a cost associated with having many different models around, as car companies have found out.
There is a market for fancy Mustangs, and I think dkoor is right when he says they're all here. I mean, let's not kid ourselves. You've posted on other guitar forums, I'm sure. How many people GAS for a Mustang? The Mustang is just not that respected of a guitar outside the shortscale crowd. Having five different models of Mustangs in America would be dumb when the one they have, the excellent '65 RI, has trouble selling, so much that they resell for so little money. Americans largely want black and sunburst Strats and Teles. That's the stuff that sells because only rich people can afford lots of new guitars anyway, and rich people generally want something iconic, i.e. a Strat.
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