I need a headphone amp with multiple inputs

Pens · Post by **Pens** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:26 pm

Does anyone know of any? Google searches only turn up multi output amps but I couldn't find any that accepted to different inputs that goes to an output.

I almost emailed Mike to see if he could make one for me but tried searching for one first. Can't find one at all.

Post by **Doog** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:39 pm

Just buy a little mixer?

Sloan · Post by **Sloan** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:20 pm

Most headphone amps only have a stereo input, kinda lame.

Post by **dots** » Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:46 am

Doog wrote:Just buy a little mixer?

^this

i've never seen a headphone amp that had any sort of mixing beyond a volume control for each set of headphones. i think ideally they're just supposed to receive the signal from a board and pass that along to the cans. that hasn't stopped members of bands i've been in from asking for individual mixes, but i have also never heard any engineer say much beyond "fuck no" when that request comes in. =]

mickie08 · Post by **mickie08** » Tue Oct 25, 2011 2:47 am

Are you talking something like this?

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/JHGreenRoom/

If so they are cool but really expensive.

Pens · Post by **Pens** » Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:37 am

Hmm. I already have a small mixer, the purpose was to take output from the mixer AND output from garageband and go into my headphone while still sending the mixer as the input from the mixer into my laptop. Basically, if I monitor the track in garageband it gives me latency, so I was wanting direct vocals from the mixer and the playback from the other tracks. Fuck I guess I'll have to build one somehow.

Thanks y'alls.

toez10 · Post by **toez10** » Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:41 pm

Pens wrote:Hmm. I already have a small mixer, the purpose was to take output from the mixer AND output from garageband and go into my headphone while still sending the mixer as the input from the mixer into my laptop. Basically, if I monitor the track in garageband it gives me latency, so I was wanting direct vocals from the mixer and the playback from the other tracks. Fuck I guess I'll have to build one somehow.

Thanks y'alls.

If you've got a mixer with aux sends and headphone output, you can route your output from garageband into a stereo input on your mixer, then have your mice in another channel on your mixer sent out through an aux/effects channel on your mixer to garageband, and then use the main mix for your headphone balance. If you've got a channel insert on your mic channel, you can send out from there to garageband as well - either way you just want to make sure you aren't sending a mix of your new vocal and the audio track you are monitoring. Perhaps that will work with the setup you've already got?

robroe · Post by **robroe** » Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:43 pm

someone go into MSPAINT and draw me a fucking cartoon of what the fuck this thing is.

all these words....i cant figure out what the fuck. to many fucking words

Post by **Mike** » Tue Oct 25, 2011 2:33 pm

mickie08 wrote:Are you talking something like this?

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/JHGreenRoom/

If so they are cool but really expensive.

We use one of these for rehearsals in my drummers garage. It's fucking immense.

Post by **dots** » Tue Oct 25, 2011 2:59 pm

hlysht, i stand corrected. can it get loud enough?

yeah, at 500, i agree it's pretty spendy, but a great idea. i guess if you're trying to economize power consumption and space as well as giving more mixing options, it's a great product.

Pens · Post by **Pens** » Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:03 pm

toez10 wrote:
Pens wrote:Hmm. I already have a small mixer, the purpose was to take output from the mixer AND output from garageband and go into my headphone while still sending the mixer as the input from the mixer into my laptop. Basically, if I monitor the track in garageband it gives me latency, so I was wanting direct vocals from the mixer and the playback from the other tracks. Fuck I guess I'll have to build one somehow.

Thanks y'alls.
If you've got a mixer with aux sends and headphone output, you can route your output from garageband into a stereo input on your mixer, then have your mice in another channel on your mixer sent out through an aux/effects channel on your mixer to garageband, and then use the main mix for your headphone balance. If you've got a channel insert on your mic channel, you can send out from there to garageband as well - either way you just want to make sure you aren't sending a mix of your new vocal and the audio track you are monitoring. Perhaps that will work with the setup you've already got?

Maybe, I'll fuck around with it later, I don't know if that will work though since I record with a pair of mics at once (One SM58 and one large diaphragm condenser set a bit back to pic up room ambiance). I don't think there's a way to send output from the laptop into the mixer without it going into the mixed output from the two sources.

Post by **Mike** » Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:05 pm

Well that's the thing, we play in my drummers garage and don't use amps. Gareth uses a FloodPod and I use a Tech21 Sansamp clone with some pedals up front. J plays bass through a Sansamp Bass driver clone. Drums are TD-20, so we're not having to hear headphone mix over any amps, just the ambient noise of the sticks on the TD-20, acoustic guitar strums and each others voices.

Man is it a fantastic practise tool. We used to pay Â£48 a week to rent rehearsal space + petrol + beer money for a half time pint each week. In 9 weeks we'd covered this and we get to practise more often and BETTER because we can hear everything we're doing and correct what doesn't work, plus make scratch recordings at the tap of a button.

It's an amazing tool.

Sloan · Post by **Sloan** » Tue Oct 25, 2011 5:15 pm

If your doing a bunch of separate mixes, you could try to find a monitor/line mixer. But I think you would have to amp it anyway, so you would probably spend close to 500 anywho.

http://heartechnologies.com/mb/mixback.htm

something like this will let you do 6 stereo mixes.

honeyiscool · Post by **honeyiscool** » Wed Oct 26, 2011 12:41 am

Presonus makes a rack headphone amp that sounds like it should be what you want it to do.

Carvin as well.

Sloan · Post by **Sloan** » Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:04 am

honeyiscool wrote:Presonus makes a rack headphone amp that sounds like it should be what you want it to do.

Carvin as well.

I think those only have two inputs for Stereo which is pumped to all headphones. I've got an old Furman like this, and they are what I call 'standard' headphone amps, but things get interesting/expensive when you want multiple headphone mixes.

hotrodperlmutter · Post by **hotrodperlmutter** » Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:52 am

this is only $300, and i fear it's as close as it comes:

basically you want a reverse headphone mixer with a line out?

instead of, say, 4 outputs (to headphones) from 1 input (from mixer/board), you want 4 inputs (from mixer/board/laptop/amp/mic) to 1 headphone output, and then 1 line output (that would go back into a device you're mixing?

honeyiscool · Post by **honeyiscool** » Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:04 am

Sloan wrote:I think those only have two inputs for Stereo which is pumped to all headphones. I've got an old Furman like this, and they are what I call 'standard' headphone amps, but things get interesting/expensive when you want multiple headphone mixes.

Having had a Presonus HP60, I can tell you that each headphone can have a different mix of A and B and also an aux input.

toez10 · Post by **toez10** » Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:52 pm

Pens wrote:
toez10 wrote:
Pens wrote:Hmm. I already have a small mixer, the purpose was to take output from the mixer AND output from garageband and go into my headphone while still sending the mixer as the input from the mixer into my laptop. Basically, if I monitor the track in garageband it gives me latency, so I was wanting direct vocals from the mixer and the playback from the other tracks. Fuck I guess I'll have to build one somehow.

Thanks y'alls.
If you've got a mixer with aux sends and headphone output, you can route your output from garageband into a stereo input on your mixer, then have your mice in another channel on your mixer sent out through an aux/effects channel on your mixer to garageband, and then use the main mix for your headphone balance. If you've got a channel insert on your mic channel, you can send out from there to garageband as well - either way you just want to make sure you aren't sending a mix of your new vocal and the audio track you are monitoring. Perhaps that will work with the setup you've already got?
Maybe, I'll fuck around with it later, I don't know if that will work though since I record with a pair of mics at once (One SM58 and one large diaphragm condenser set a bit back to pic up room ambiance). I don't think there's a way to send output from the laptop into the mixer without it going into the mixed output from the two sources.

What mixer are you using? I might be able to draw a quick diagram for you. Are you using an interface, or the line in on your computer?

Pens · Post by **Pens** » Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:00 pm

It's an 8-channel Behringer powered mixer. I can't find the exact model but it's the one with 4 XLR inputs, very very similar to this one.

http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/1202.aspx

But my main out isn't a slider, it's a knob.

And I'm going line-in to my laptop.

Sloan · Post by **Sloan** » Wed Oct 26, 2011 11:27 pm

honeyiscool wrote:
Sloan wrote:I think those only have two inputs for Stereo which is pumped to all headphones. I've got an old Furman like this, and they are what I call 'standard' headphone amps, but things get interesting/expensive when you want multiple headphone mixes.
Having had a Presonus HP60, I can tell you that each headphone can have a different mix of A and B and also an aux input.

yeah, but that's only two stereo mixes. if you have like 4 d00ds that want personalized mixes, they are gonna have to learn to deal with it.