The Breeding has broken.

Zekk · Post by **Zekk** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:54 pm

My first band, the Breeding (which is a fucking shitty name, I just noticed), and Im already starting a new one. I've decided to drop playing lead, and go on to playing some basic third guitar rythme and to take up being the lead singer.

Now I can sing fairly well, and can hit most of the notes I want (even when I have no idea what not Im singing), but have enver sung in a band before (except for the school of rock thing at the local music store where I did the backing vocals). Right now I have no mike setup, and no idea what I need to get started singing. So I ask shortscale... please tell me what i nee to get started as a lead singer. Any advise on Mikes and all the jazz is mainly what Im going for.

gaybear · Post by **gaybear** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:58 pm

pa and any fitty dollar mic will do

(for rehearsal)

Post by **Hurb** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:04 am

Zekk wrote: Any advise on Mikes and all the jazz is mainly what Im going for.

mikes are grouchy and jazzes are hot.

wrong section really...but fuk it.

Zekk · Post by **Zekk** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:07 am

What secition should this of been in?

Post by **Hurb** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:08 am

Zekk wrote:What secition should this of been in?

well your asking about mics so the recording section duh!

Zekk · Post by **Zekk** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:12 am

Oh. I thought, ya know that was only for showing off stuff you've recorded. My bad.

Post by **Hurb** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:13 am

Zekk wrote:Oh. I thought, ya know that was only for showing off stuff you've recorded. My bad.

no that be the ho house..

i will move it as if by magic!!

Zekk · Post by **Zekk** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:14 am

Kool, thank ya.

gaybear · Post by **gaybear** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:32 am

what kinda music are you gonna do, and what are you looking for mics to do? record? rehearse? both?

gaybear · Post by **gaybear** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:38 am

oh, and this seems more like an equipment forum thread actually. to me anyway.

Zekk · Post by **Zekk** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:41 am

Both, aswell as mild giging. I play a varity of stuff. But mainly I aim to play alot of placebo/britpop and some nirvana covers ,as well as simerly styled origionals.

Placebo is you've never heard them: http://www.myspace.com/placebo

gaybear · Post by **gaybear** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 1:09 am

for inexpensive setups:

80-100 watt pa kits are like 180-250$ on musiciansfriend.com

that would be fine for practice.

prolly not so much ofr live shows. unless you do coffee houses, etc.

this seems like a pretty decent deal http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ ... sku=630426

live mics, you could go with ye ol tried and true sm58
or almost any mic 50-100$ will be fine. a good rule of thumb, though not always true, is if it has no on/off switch, it probably gets less feedback.

for a cheap, and really pretty decent mic to record vocals, get the mxl 990. very inexpensive, suprisingly nice.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ ... sku=273156

this is all assuming a minimal budget.

Zekk · Post by **Zekk** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 1:17 am

Yeah. Money is going to be tight for this.

ultratwin · Post by **ultratwin** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 12:26 pm

Zekk wrote:My first band, the Breeding (which is a fucking shitty name, I just noticed), and Im already starting a new one.

Slightly off topic, yes...But I just unofficially joined another light hearted The Sundays-like band here called The Breathing (back on bass guitar again). The funny thing is that when Koreans pronounce it it sounds just like "the breeding", so chalk one up for coincidence.

noirengineer · Post by **noirengineer** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:07 pm

yep go for sm57. or seinheisser 421, seinheisser 441 ----> LIVE thru PA
If recording, use a ribbon mic.. i like cascade fat heads II or Beyer M160

If ya go fancy with it (not necessary though).. royer R121 is ultimate!

Post by **Doog** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:39 am

SM58 rather than a SM57 for live vocal use, surely, Mr Dead Post Diggger?

mickie08 · Post by **mickie08** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:51 am

I have had 2 powered behringer Pa boards (one more of the block style head and one the standard 16 channel mixer with effects and power amp). They are great for practice or small gigs particularly if all you are running is vocals. You can buy the head for like 250 or 300 new (less used obviously...as low as 125-150) A couple 12" used yamaha/carvin/peavey speakers some cables and a vocal mic and you are ready.

For mics, I prefer Audix om5's but they are a little $ Shure sm58's are the standard for sure. You can find them on cragislist around here regualrly for 50 or so.

Even some of the cheap Nady, behringer, audio dynamic mics are not bad to get started. The biggest problem I have found with the cheaper mics is that you have to EQ more and they don't take hadling as well. 58's will still be here when the cockroaches take over the world.

Personally, I would go to americanmusical.com and order a small PA package ( I warn you their website can be a pain in the ass) The reason I recommend them is that they have a kind of store credit (although it is not a credit card and there is not interest)

For any purchase under 1000, they will take your card #, charge 1/3 of the amount plus all shipping charges, and then bill the rest over the next 60 days (30 days between each payment). It allows you to get a little more/better gear if you are looking at stuff but not quite enough money available....)

Otherwise be a craigslist whore like me.

Ninja Mike 808 · Post by **Ninja Mike 808** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:03 am

The resurrection, eh?

SM 58 for vocals is cool. If you wanna be neato, then go with a SM 57, Beta 58 or Beta 57, all made by Shure.
PA systems for practice, don't really matter to me. As long as they aren't fragile, imo, they'll be cool. You may want to mic up your guitar cabinet, tho, in which you can use either a SM 57, Beta 57 or a Sennheiser 421...

As far as recording vocals: Lotta people like ribbon and tube mics... Both of them can give an old style of vocals (especially ribbon mics), but tubes give that brightness that everyone seems to love. A large diaphragm condenser mic is the industry standard for vocals, tho, unless you scream...

Deals:
57s and 58s
MXL condensor mics + preamp

You do know whatchu need to record, don't you? Person who probly doesn't post on this forum anymore...

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