With Squier on a roll, can we get a Musicmaster or a Bronco

paul_ · Post by **paul_** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:40 pm

Pens wrote:Remaking those guitars using more modern "shit that works" rather than vintage "shit that was a bad idea". I do not understand the people on this board who cry about things not being "vintage correct". If shit was a stupid idea, then let's not remake that mistake.

Not everything from the old days they've done away with "didn't work," they just decided to make their specs a bit more Gibson-like in the widdy-widdy era. We're past that now, and the old guitars play fine. I don't want flat fingerboards and big frets on a Fender, because they make them feel boring to me. A Fender's identity is in it's neck.

Pens · Post by **Pens** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:46 pm

paul_ wrote:
Pens wrote:Remaking those guitars using more modern "shit that works" rather than vintage "shit that was a bad idea". I do not understand the people on this board who cry about things not being "vintage correct". If shit was a stupid idea, then let's not remake that mistake.
Not everything from the old days they've done away with "didn't work," they just decided to make their specs a bit more Gibson-like in the widdy-widdy era. We're past that now, and the old guitars play fine. I don't want flat fingerboards and big frets on a Fender, because they make them feel boring to me. A Fender's identity is in it's neck.

The neck, that's fine. The Bronco trem, for example, wasn't the finest in design. They figured out things that worked better. Let's use those things instead. Use the old neck spec, that's fine, but the whole "no rhythm circuit - not a Jag!" thing is kinda dumb. Any guitar that is shaped like a Jazzy but with a 24" scale neck is a Jaguar. Getting rid of the bad things about them doesn't ruin the guitar.

Now, I do agree that there is never any excuse for a strat jack. That's just plain dumb.

hotrodperlmutter · Post by **hotrodperlmutter** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:38 pm

in life, there are two things i despise: radishes, rhythm circuits, and sticklers for proper addition.

Ankhanu · Post by **Ankhanu** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:25 pm

Love me some dark ass rhythm circuit!

61fury · Post by **61fury** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:19 am

hotrodperlmutter wrote:in life, there are two things i despise: radishes, rhythm circuits, and sticklers for proper addition.

+1

"If you were poor would you eat a radish?" I asked my sister that when I was little. She burst out laughing and my family tormented with it for years. I'm 49 now and am still getting over it. I have two reasons to hate radishes.

Post by **dots** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:34 am

Ankhanu wrote:Love me some dark ass rhythm circuit!

+1

i'm actually fixinta head back to the bedroom and push that shit through the jvm in a minute here.

robroe · Post by **robroe** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:42 am

Pens wrote:Remaking those guitars using more modern "shit that works" rather than vintage "shit that was a bad idea".
The Bronco trem, for example, wasn't the finest in design.

do you own a bronco? no? just repeating what you have read from some dumbshit guy in a book? yes?

the bridge works perfect on mine. i don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

PRO TIP: you can change strings on a bronco faster than any other bridge unit ever made, it stays in tune, and you can lock it down simply with the screw if thats what you want to do

Post by **dots** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:04 am

what i have actually heard is putting together the bridge is a bit tricky, mainly because not a lot of documentation on it exists. but most people i've known with a bronco say they think it's one of the best trems out there and super stable.

taylornutt · Post by **taylornutt** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:13 am

I am always keeping my eyes open for Bronco trems or Bronco projects because the trems are nearly impossible to find because no one parts them out. I have the base plate and spring for it but thats it.

I would love to get one so I could complete the triology with my Musicmaster and my Mustang.

Pens · Post by **Pens** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:36 am

robroe wrote:
Pens wrote:Remaking those guitars using more modern "shit that works" rather than vintage "shit that was a bad idea".
The Bronco trem, for example, wasn't the finest in design.
do you own a bronco? no? just repeating what you have read from some dumbshit guy in a book? yes?

the bridge works perfect on mine. i don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

PRO TIP: you can change strings on a bronco faster than any other bridge unit ever made, it stays in tune, and you can lock it down simply with the screw if thats what you want to do

Nope, never owned one. Most people have never owned one because Fender didn't make or sell that many of them. They also figured out other and more cost effective ways to make a tremolo bridge.

If the design was superiour, the free market dictates that we'd have seen them being used on other guitars. Or at least a 3rd party would have recreated it.

I've also heard that the Jaguar bridge is awesome. That's also bullshit from my viewpoint. So, just cuz this guy rob on the internet says it's so fucking rad isn't going to make me believe it.

So yeah, it wasn't the finest in design.

jamba72 · Post by **jamba72** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:16 am

lets hope that a new Squier Mustang wouldnt look like this :
Â´Squier Mustang new vintage RIÂ´
retail price 330$

taylornutt · Post by **taylornutt** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:34 pm

jamba72 wrote:lets hope that a new Squier Mustang wouldnt look like this :
Â´Squier Mustang new vintage RIÂ´
retail price 330$

Sorry, I just threw up in my mouth just now

honeyiscool · Post by **honeyiscool** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:16 pm

jamba72 wrote:lets hope that a new Squier Mustang wouldnt look like this :
Â´Squier Mustang new vintage RIÂ´
retail price 330$

Is it bad that I almost like that?

stewart · Post by **stewart** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:23 pm

i'd play that guitar.

taylornutt · Post by **taylornutt** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:36 pm

Remove the strat jack, move the switches and do a proper Competition Stripe and it will be alright.

honeyiscool · Post by **honeyiscool** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:44 pm

Personally I don't see a thing wrong with humbucker routing. You can get Lace Dually that are two single coils mashed in one, you can get humbucker sized P90s that give you fat single coil sounds, you can get other full sized single coils from many manufacturers, and if you really don't care for it, get a new pickguard and install single coils in it. I love swimming pool and HH routes. It's great for a modder, much more comfy than the rather narrow confines I'm usually working with in a Mustang body.

Pens · Post by **Pens** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:39 pm

honeyiscool wrote:
jamba72 wrote:lets hope that a new Squier Mustang wouldnt look like this :
Â´Squier Mustang new vintage RIÂ´
retail price 330$

Is it bad that I almost like that?

The switches are actually in the right spot for once. The #1 dumbest thing about the stock Mustang is the position of those switches. Putting them below the strings makes soooooooo much more sense.

Get rid of the strat jack and that's a nice guitar.

aen · Post by **aen** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:44 pm

dots wrote: head back to the bedroom and push that shit through the jvm

ITT: Dots makes aggressive anal joke.

Post by **dots** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:33 am

is there any other kind of anal joke?

aen · Post by **aen** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:20 am

hmmm, there muust be some kind of soft anal joke.