Johnny Marr Jaguar is official mofos!

DanHeron · Post by **DanHeron** » Fri Jan 06, 2012 6:04 pm

Ah. Cool.

I really want to see this KO finish....

kypdurron · Post by **kypdurron** » Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:10 pm

do like. the right aim for unexpected money, may it ever occur. Johnny Marr seems a cool guy, just watched all his Fender amp videos. the man has style.

to be more specific: I like how he adressed all the main problems people may have with Jaguars without trying to make the guitar something else. You got a floating bridge, but with bigger, tighter screws that should not move all the time. A pop-on trem arm that sticks where he has to. a serial setting for a fatter sound (he could also have taken a humbucker). And lotsa switches. That's what a Jaguar is all about, right? Single Coils and a lot of switches. Here it is.

louis · Post by **louis** » Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:33 pm

Nicely done Marr! Its clearly a guitar players guitar. I think there would be a similar outcome if fender came to one of us lot and gave you free reign on building your dream guitar. Either that or he's just some johnny come lately that has done some last minute cramming on shortscale before explaining the guitar somebody built for him lol.

taylornutt · Post by **taylornutt** » Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:37 pm

I hope Fender will offer some of the improvements (bushings for the tremolo arm and bridge) as aftermarket options

honeyiscool · Post by **honeyiscool** » Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:51 pm

no worried, reliablefender will definitely hack it up for our benefit/detriment.

hotrodperlmutter · Post by **hotrodperlmutter** » Sat Jan 07, 2012 11:34 pm

ha ha, FUCK STRATOSPHERE

nomorebridge · Post by **nomorebridge** » Sun Jan 08, 2012 7:45 pm

Something slightly disingenuous here, it's great that Johnny Marr has designed a guitar it looks like a great modern day Jaguar with lots of little bugbears sorted but for all that, it's not really got much to do with the sound of The Smiths. Yet they are the only riffs he plays, no cribs no modest mouse.

All Marr's best work was done in practically anything but a Jaguar, though I'm sure he could have got hold of one had he wanted.

It looks a great guitar though and I would love and I suppose it's quite cool a musician making a signature based in what they are into now as opposed to what they are 'famous' for.

othomas2 · Post by **othomas2** » Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:01 pm

If I were more heavily into Marr & wanted his signature guitar I would certainly get a Rick 330.

I don't know the story, but has he just lost all interest in that guitar ?

honeyiscool · Post by **honeyiscool** » Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:12 pm

nomorebridge wrote:Something slightly disingenuous here, it's great that Johnny Marr has designed a guitar it looks like a great modern day Jaguar with lots of little bugbears sorted but for all that, it's not really got much to do with the sound of The Smiths. Yet they are the only riffs he plays, no cribs no modest mouse.

All Marr's best work was done in practically anything but a Jaguar, though I'm sure he could have got hold of one had he wanted.

It looks a great guitar though and I would love and I suppose it's quite cool a musician making a signature based in what they are into now as opposed to what they are 'famous' for.

You could say the same about Eric Clapton. I don't think it's an issue because it's what Johnny Marr wants to be playing now and he thinks it nails the old sounds.

Ankhanu · Post by **Ankhanu** » Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:17 pm

honeyiscool wrote:
nomorebridge wrote:Something slightly disingenuous here, it's great that Johnny Marr has designed a guitar it looks like a great modern day Jaguar with lots of little bugbears sorted but for all that, it's not really got much to do with the sound of The Smiths. Yet they are the only riffs he plays, no cribs no modest mouse.

All Marr's best work was done in practically anything but a Jaguar, though I'm sure he could have got hold of one had he wanted.

It looks a great guitar though and I would love and I suppose it's quite cool a musician making a signature based in what they are into now as opposed to what they are 'famous' for.
You could say the same about Eric Clapton. I don't think it's an issue because it's what Johnny Marr wants to be playing now and he thinks it nails the old sounds.

Ditto.
He didn't play Jags at the time, but he now has quite a Jaguar collection, and plays them a lot. Several signature models are not about what the artist are known to have played, but, rather, features that they want and now play; this is a fantastic example of this in action. In some ways, this is more of a "signature" than most, like the Jag-Stang... it's not just what they have played, but rather, they've put their mark on a guitar by actually taking part in designing something that they WANT, making a model that is theirs rather than just celebrating what they've used in the past.

dezb1 · Post by **dezb1** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:48 am

othomas2 wrote:If I were more heavily into Marr & wanted his signature guitar I would certainly get a Rick 330.

I don't know the story, but has he just lost all interest in that guitar ?

The Ric if you wanted the marr look... but a Tele if you wanted the sound he did most of his Smith recording with that horrible green Tele...

othomas2 · Post by **othomas2** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:50 am

Ahh... didn't know that. thanks.

honeyiscool · Post by **honeyiscool** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:06 am

So how does one go about making a custom control plate? Would it be just easier (and probably cheaper) to just have someone build a Jazzmaster-style pickguard that has the routing you want on it?

The more and more I think about how I'd make a Jaguar my guitar, the more and more I think the stock config has to go. This Marr Jaguar has inspired me a bit.

Since I'm getting a Jaguar HH Special in a few days, I'm thinking about how I'd go about rewiring that thing. I would use the lower three switches to be bridge phase, bridge series/parallel, and neck series/parallel. So the lower three switches are perfect for me. But the rhythm circuit, I really can't figure out how I'd use it meaningfully. Maybe I could use a Jazz Bass style individual pickup volume configuration with a strangle switch? But that's not really to my liking. I'd rather just have a three-way switch, but not a toggle or a blade. No, I want a Mustang style three-way switch in the upper bout to be bridge-mid-neck.

So where would I find somebody who can make me an upper control plate that fits a Mustang switch?

Or maybe I can take a hybrid approach. Get someone to make a Jazzmaster style pickguard that still has the opening for the lower Jaguar control plate.

finboy · Post by **finboy** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:17 pm

Stereordinary from offset does custom plates, including that marr style lower plate.

Wennnz · Post by **Wennnz** » Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:58 am

By the way, Ludlow Guitars, which is one of my local guitar shops, has The Marr-uar (I just made that up) at $1750 street. I am now very interested.

http://ludlowguitars.com/item/johnny-marr-jaguar

benecol · Post by **benecol** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:27 am

Hardly a newsflash (learnt this over at OSG last night) but not seen it mentioned in this thread: the collet with the nylon insert is being made by the Staytrem fella (he's in the UK - nice chap called John - Dave had one of his bars on his Mustang, if I remember right). The bar is held a little more snugly, there's no more metal-on-metal contact, and there's an adjustable tensioner under the assembly so you can set how much the bar swings when you let go of it.

I think it's one of those pieces of kit you only need if the original fitment goes wrong: the original collet on my AVRI was great until I tried to up the tension just a touch and clumsily broke it. (I do lots of fast little wibbles on the bar because I listen to Comets on Fire a lot, so am quite hard on the trem system). The replacement part has always been a bit shit, and the buzz on my Jazzmaster that I thought was coming from the bridge turns out to be coming from the collet. So I've just ordered one; will report back when it arrives.

lorez · Post by **lorez** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:46 am

I was looking at the staytrems the other day but thought they were expensive. It'll be interesting in hearing you thoughts on them though.

If anyone is interested I spotted there was a huge feature on this and the 50th anniversary jag in guitarist mag.

stewart · Post by **stewart** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:52 pm

i asked marr about the metallic KO finish on twitter and got fuck-all response. hmph.

taylornutt · Post by **taylornutt** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:53 pm

benecol wrote:Hardly a newsflash (learnt this over at OSG last night) but not seen it mentioned in this thread: the collet with the nylon insert is being made by the Staytrem fella (he's in the UK - nice chap called John - Dave had one of his bars on his Mustang, if I remember right). The bar is held a little more snugly, there's no more metal-on-metal contact, and there's an adjustable tensioner under the assembly so you can set how much the bar swings when you let go of it.

I think it's one of those pieces of kit you only need if the original fitment goes wrong: the original collet on my AVRI was great until I tried to up the tension just a touch and clumsily broke it. (I do lots of fast little wibbles on the bar because I listen to Comets on Fire a lot, so am quite hard on the trem system). The replacement part has always been a bit shit, and the buzz on my Jazzmaster that I thought was coming from the bridge turns out to be coming from the collet. So I've just ordered one; will report back when it arrives.

Thanks for that info. I would love to have my tremolo bar on my AVRI Jaguar move like his. I dislike it dangling down. I would use the tremolo more if it didn't flop so much.

benecol · Post by **benecol** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:54 pm

It shouldn't flop around at all - try pushing the arm in a bit more.