Noise gate vs Feedback eliminator

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Noise gate vs Feedback eliminator

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I realized i know nothing whatsoever about guitar effects. I'm looking for a noise gate. I see some rack style feedback eliminators for cheap, are these two basically the same thing?
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Also, i was looking at some multi fx units, although playing metal i rarely use effects. I own a pod xt live, but i'm not sure if it will color the sound a lot. Is it possible to get some kind of rack/floor unit that has tuner/fx/gate/feedback all built into it?
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I would be surprised if you could get all of those things in one box. I mean, what you've basically described is an entire rack rig minus the power conditioner, amps, and a compressor.

I just bought a boss ns2, and it works really well. It stifles unwanted feedback and noise as a result from playing with high gain, but doesn't seem to color the natural decay if you hold out a note.
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Post by Sloan »

metal d00dz love the decimator.
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A feedback eliminator concentrates on certain frequencies, i remember using feedback finding eq's and the offending frequency would light up so you could notch it out or whatever. i'm guessing that unit works the same, but maybe automatically.

a noise gate detects sound within a set threshold and allows it to pass signal. so you set it to where your softest intentional played note would be and anything at the point or louder will go through while anything lower in volume will not.
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Re: Noise gate vs Feedback eliminator

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JJLipton wrote: I own a pod xt live, but i'm not sure if it will color the sound a lot. Is it possible to get some kind of rack/floor unit that has tuner/fx/gate/feedback all built into it?
i think the pod has all those built in (other than feedback elimination) and there are rack versions of the pod. also Axe FX and lots of other rackmount FX units should have a tuner and noise gate.
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Post by James »

If you know nothing about effects what makes you think you want a noise gate?

I ask because a common misconception among guitarists is that a noise gate will reduce background noise in your regular signal. What it does instead is act like an automatic volume control. When the level of your signal goes below a set point (the threshold) it turns the volume down by an amount you set (they're typically set to turn the volume down completely but you can set it to keep a bit of volume to sound more natural if you wish). When the signal goes back above the threshold the volume reduction is removed and your signal is as it would be without the effect. A typical use would be to keep your guitar silent between songs. You can also set the threshold relatively high, so the tail-end of notes is cut short. That's similar to the sound some fuzz pedals get when they use a noise gate.
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Post by batsbrew »

you always want to use the thing that LEAST phooks with your tone.

the feedback thing is overkill.

if you need that much noise reduction, you've got something wrong with your setup.

the ISP pedals work great.
i use a decimator, set for the least amount of reduction it takes when i'm muting the guitar, and no more.


you CAN get dramatic effects with chopping rhythm parts with aggressive reduction, but really, how often would you do that?