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I learned a pretty a cool DIY photography technique today. You basically attach a 2nd lens BACKWARDS on the front of your camera+lens setup to boost macro performance.
It's quite clever if you think about it:
A lens takes all the light outside then shrinks it down to fit on the film/sensor in the camera. So if your reverse that it takes a small area if light and increases it. But, the reversed side of a lens is bigger than film/sensor... So you attach that to your normal lens.
The light gets increased like a magnifying glass by the reverse lens, then scaled down to fit the sensor in the camera by the normal lens(which is mounted normally). It allows you to take REALLY close up images without buying an expensive specific macro lens.
My camera has a minimum focusing distance of roughly 8cm i think. But using an old 50mm lens screwed on to the front in reverse I was able to focus at less than 1cm. A 1cm area is filling the whole frame and so i can crop to get tiny details. It's how some people take photos of the eyes of insects and stuff.
Here's some test shots I did. (note I'm inside using shit lighting so the shots are quite noisy at ISO3200, outdoors in daylight they would be even clearer):
It's quite clever if you think about it:
A lens takes all the light outside then shrinks it down to fit on the film/sensor in the camera. So if your reverse that it takes a small area if light and increases it. But, the reversed side of a lens is bigger than film/sensor... So you attach that to your normal lens.
The light gets increased like a magnifying glass by the reverse lens, then scaled down to fit the sensor in the camera by the normal lens(which is mounted normally). It allows you to take REALLY close up images without buying an expensive specific macro lens.
My camera has a minimum focusing distance of roughly 8cm i think. But using an old 50mm lens screwed on to the front in reverse I was able to focus at less than 1cm. A 1cm area is filling the whole frame and so i can crop to get tiny details. It's how some people take photos of the eyes of insects and stuff.
Here's some test shots I did. (note I'm inside using shit lighting so the shots are quite noisy at ISO3200, outdoors in daylight they would be even clearer):
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Here's another I just did.
Put the camera on a flat surface this time instead of handheld, so i could increase to f16 (deeper DOF) and have a lower iso (less noise) and then use a longer shutter speed to get enough light. You're never going to get a big DOF at this close range though so focusing is quite hard and very precise. I guess you could take photos of flat things to get the whole image in focus..
I might try this with some insects or something tomorrow in the daylight, could be cool.
Put the camera on a flat surface this time instead of handheld, so i could increase to f16 (deeper DOF) and have a lower iso (less noise) and then use a longer shutter speed to get enough light. You're never going to get a big DOF at this close range though so focusing is quite hard and very precise. I guess you could take photos of flat things to get the whole image in focus..
I might try this with some insects or something tomorrow in the daylight, could be cool.
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Aw that dog is so cute. Great photo too.
Here's some more I took recently:
Went for a walk in some woods:
Saw these guys potholing...I was taking a photo of a tree stump (lol) and then these guys came over saying "we dug that out 30 years ago". I was a bit confused but it turned out there was a pothole just below, covered by the leaves. They started to dig it out and it was fucking tiny. I don't know how they dare to go in those things but they do, as a hobby.
Here's some more I took recently:
Went for a walk in some woods:
Saw these guys potholing...I was taking a photo of a tree stump (lol) and then these guys came over saying "we dug that out 30 years ago". I was a bit confused but it turned out there was a pothole just below, covered by the leaves. They started to dig it out and it was fucking tiny. I don't know how they dare to go in those things but they do, as a hobby.
Ah it's cause I deleted them off my flickr stream.
Lenses are threaded on the front, so you can screw filters on. But 2 lenses both have the same thread so won't go together, i think both have 'male' threads. You can buy an male>female adapter ring.
Luckily my camera is a bit odd and has a female thread already on it so the lens can screw directly to it. I think it's because Fuji want you to buy their "official" adapter to attach filters and stuff, so they annoyingly put a female thread on instead of the usual male thread which filters work with. Kind of annoying but it works well for this reverse lens stuff.
I have heard of people using duct tape though. It's not really something you do often, it's just a bit of a fun thing to experiment with. When I first did it i just held the lens over the front, but focusing is really hard cause the depth of field becomes so tiny when up close.
Lenses are threaded on the front, so you can screw filters on. But 2 lenses both have the same thread so won't go together, i think both have 'male' threads. You can buy an male>female adapter ring.
Luckily my camera is a bit odd and has a female thread already on it so the lens can screw directly to it. I think it's because Fuji want you to buy their "official" adapter to attach filters and stuff, so they annoyingly put a female thread on instead of the usual male thread which filters work with. Kind of annoying but it works well for this reverse lens stuff.
I have heard of people using duct tape though. It's not really something you do often, it's just a bit of a fun thing to experiment with. When I first did it i just held the lens over the front, but focusing is really hard cause the depth of field becomes so tiny when up close.
At christmas lady Hurb done bought me a lovely Diana Camera which was very nice. It has kick started my love of photies. It is a bit of expensive hobby to start, but I love some of the pictures I have seen taken with these cameras. I was dreading getting my first roll of 120 film back. I had heard a few horror stories of peoples first rolls being really crap as getting used to the exposures on these cameras is a bit of a learning curve.
However I have just gotten my film back and I am really chuffed!
So much so I thought I would share them with you so you could say nice things hopefully?(you can be criticle too!)
this one was taken with the pinhole
I think this was pinhole aswell
Hope you like them these are just scanned from the pictures I got back no processing or anything(hence dog hairs )
However I have just gotten my film back and I am really chuffed!
So much so I thought I would share them with you so you could say nice things hopefully?(you can be criticle too!)
this one was taken with the pinhole
I think this was pinhole aswell
Hope you like them these are just scanned from the pictures I got back no processing or anything(hence dog hairs )
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WOW. Amazing job for a Diana! I have one too but used the 35mm back and film, just cause it's more convenient to get processed (I should get my shit together than and use medium format). And my first, and last, roll was 90% a disaster. I intend to try again though.
The 2nd to last one you posted is realllllllly nice. Perfect exposure and focus, which people take for granted with digital cameras. I'm kind of amazed it was from a Diana to be honest. Brilliant.
Also its cool to see the pinhole stuff and proper double exposures, album cover material
Nice one Hurb. Look forward to seeing more.
The 2nd to last one you posted is realllllllly nice. Perfect exposure and focus, which people take for granted with digital cameras. I'm kind of amazed it was from a Diana to be honest. Brilliant.
Also its cool to see the pinhole stuff and proper double exposures, album cover material
Nice one Hurb. Look forward to seeing more.
Thank you so much for that! such nice comments. I must admit before I took a shot I read alot of info on taking pictures with the Diana which partly made me very nervous but I guess a bit prepared me for the Diana's quirks.DanHeron wrote:WOW. Amazing job for a Diana! I have one too but used the 35mm back and film, just cause it's more convenient to get processed (I should get my shit together than and use medium format). And my first, and last, roll was 90% a disaster. I intend to try again though.
The 2nd to last one you posted is realllllllly nice. Perfect exposure and focus, which people take for granted with digital cameras. I'm kind of amazed it was from a Diana to be honest. Brilliant.
Also its cool to see the pinhole stuff and proper double exposures, album cover material
Nice one Hurb. Look forward to seeing more.
At first I did think about the 35mm back, but I think I like using 120 film, It feels quite special...and oldschool. just bought 21 expired rolls on ebay so hopefully that will keep me going a bit.
I think the reason I am so excited about taking pictures with this camera is each time I click the shutter it's really important as I'm only getting 12 pics per roll. I am thinking hard about each picture. When I dabbled with digital photography I would just snap away and only partly think about it. I can't do that with this camera. which is both awesome and horrible.
Thanks again, do you have any pictures from your Diana even if you don't like them. I just like looking at them.
The zoo picture is sweet, is he screaming or yawning? Love it.
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That's the case for old skool photography in a nutshell.Hurb wrote: I think the reason I am so excited about taking pictures with this camera is each time I click the shutter it's really important as I'm only getting 12 pics per roll. I am thinking hard about each picture.
I have got to finish off that roll of film that's been in my old Spotmatic for the last gazillion years.
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