Fender Jagstang time

[Thom]

Hooray for Jagstangs!





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[hotrodperlmutter]

NO ALIBI.

[Thom]

[Fran]

Love the gboa tshirt fran!

<3 GBOA Chris, damn shame Mary Byker joined PWEI, he needs to get HIS band back together

I enjoyed that tune Thom, good stuff and stunning JS!

[ploppy]

Here's mine, had it from new,original run, numbered in the low 2000's.
Body is definately basswood.
Used to have big tuning problems until i tightened the vibrato right down and it set up professionally.It plays awesome.

[Thom]

I enjoyed that tune Thom, good stuff and stunning JS!

Cheers Fran!

[lorez]

Great tune thom.

Threads got me searching eBay

[paul_]

if you're referring to icey then yes, he's wrong about the alder, but i thought the humbucker was an H3 copy. he never stated it was an dimarzio.

Fair enough on him saying 'copy' which I appear to have missed, but I'll still bet anything it was no purpose-designed copy of an H3, rather some humbucker they had lying around that was close enough. Fender paired the H3 with a hot Texas Special in Kurt's guitars but the production ones used a '57/'62 RI strat pickup, implying the bucker wasn't as high output as the one in Kurt's customs.

My JS used to hit up high school jazz band all the time bout 13 years back... the stock pickups actually handled the job fairly well. Previously I had used my SG on the neck bucker, then my Jaguar's rhythm circuit through one of those Peavey 300s.

[iCEByTes]

Another custom collaboration was with Fender, and was again based on the Mustang. It was planned in February 1993, right before recording "In Utero" (57). Before presenting two articles on it, take note of this. Earnie is skeptical of Fender's A&R people's quotes. He feels Kurt would never endorse the Jag-stang as he seems to in various quotes Fender claims. Earnie says he doubts Kurt had any intentions of the Jag-stang ever being mass-produced. "I believe he wanted a custom made guitar from Fender and that was it. After Kurt's death, Fender was given the go ahead to mass produce these and they sold a lot of them" (59). Read the section after these articles for more of Earnie's thoughts on this guitar.

"Cobain worked with the Fender Custom Shop to
develop the "Jag-stang," a very functional
combination of Jaguar and Mustang design. "'Kurt
always enjoyed playing both guitars,' says Fender's
Larry Brooks. 'He took photographs of each, cut
them in half, and put them together to see what
they'd look like. It was his concept, and we
detailed and contoured it to give him balance and
feel.

"'He was really easy to work with. I had a chance
to sit and talk with him, then we built him a
prototype. He played it a while and then wrote some
suggestions on the guitar and sent it back to us.
The second time around, we got it right.'

"The guitar features a Mustang-style short-scale
neck on a body that borrows from both designs.
There's a DiMarzio humbucking pickup at the bridge,
and a Texas Special single coil at the neck, tilted at
the same angle as on a Mustang. Cobain was quite
satisfied with the guitar. "'Ever since I started
playing, I've always liked certain things about certain
guitars but could never find the perfect mix of
everything I was looking for. The Jag-stang is the
closest thing I know. And I like the idea of having a
quality instrument on the market with no
preconceived notions attached. In a way, it's perfect
for me to attach my name to the Jag-stang, in that
I'm the anti-guitar hero - I can barely play the things
myself'" (18).

Second article:
"'I was able to track down what they needed,' says Fender
Director of Artist Relations Mark Wittenberg, 'so they
could keep his guitars up and running. Then we were
contacted and told that Kurt had an idea for a guitar --
something that he had in his mind's eye but wasn't really
seeing out there in the real world. His favorite guitar was a
Mustang, but there were things about the lines of the Jaguar
that he really liked too.'"

"Wittenberg and Fender master builder Larry L. Brooks
journeyed to Cobain and Love's Hollywood apartment to
discuss the guitar. The couple were just in the process of
moving out. Like Ferrington, the Fender guys were
impressed with Cobain's courteous manner. 'He was very
soft-spoken and very gentle.' Brooks recalls. 'As it turned
out, we'd gotten him out of bed. He'd been out or played
the night before, so he was still a little tired. But as we
started talking about the guitar, the adrenaline started flowing.
He was very easy to work with. He knew what he wanted,
but at the same time he was able to say, "You're the builder,
so you know the best way to accomplish what I'm after." He
was very open-minded that way'" (32).

Fender cut a body and sent it to Kurt who sent it back with
some slight suggestions. He then sent out one of his favorite
necks for them to copy (41).

"The resulting instrument has an alder body, plus a 24-inch
scale maple neck with a rosewood fretboard and vintage-style
fretwire. At Cobain's request, Brooks used stock Mustang
hardware from Japan, where the guitars are still produced (32)
(according to Nirvana guitar tech Earnie Bailey, the bridge
was later changed to a Tune-O-Matic (41)). The neck pickup
is a single-coil Texas Special, which was originally designed as
a bridge pickup for Fender's Stevie Ray Vaughan model. The
bridge pickup is a Dimarzio H-3 Humbucker."

"'The Texas Special is a little hotter than most single coils,'
Brooks explains. 'With a humbucker at the bridge, the Texas
Special in the neck position really helped to balance things out
so that there wasn't such a drastic drop in volume and output
going from one pickup to the other.'"

"'Kurt requested two guitars' says Mark Wittenberg, 'one in
Solid Blue and one in Fiesta Red.' The blue instrument was
delivered to Cobain, who used it on Nirvana's 1993 tour. 'We
were just finishing the Fiesta Red one,' Wittenberg continues. 'In
fact, we were literally ready to deliver it when we received
word of his death.' The red guitar has been earmarked for the
Fender museum which is being planned" (32).

The "Jag-stang" was seen starting in mid-to-late 1993 (18) although Kurt rarely played it. A reviewer for Guitar Shop saw a "cross between the Jaguar and Mustang, the Jag-stang features a sonic blue Jag body with white pickguard and Mustang bridge" (24). The Jag-stang was available to the public for a short time, but isn't wasn't as Kurt intended it to be (41). Kurt didn't even like the Jagstang that much when he received it (57). He forgot to have Fender do the contours for the arm and the stomach (41). It was as thick as a Telecaster and rather misbalanced. He wouldn't even play it for the (first?) month he had it. It was also tough to set up. Earnie immediately changed the pickups, putting a Duncan JB in the bridge (57)(59). As previously stated, he installed a Tune-O-Matic bridge on it (41). Kurt had trouble with the Mustang's slider switches, which oddly appeared on the Jag-stang, but not on the Ferrington. Earnie's also puzzled as to how the Jag-stang wound up with a Mustang tremolo and bridge (59). "Kurt was funny, with both the Jag-stang and the Ferrington, he was very excited when he received them, but soon he found things about both that he overlooked or wanted to change." He had also talked with Kurt about re-shaping the body for a more traditional Fender look. Earnie told Mark Wittenberg about these changes (also, the fitted bridge). Mark was interested in the changes, but he passed away, as well. So Fender released that Jag-Stang in the way Kurt had received it (41)(59). Kurt eventually became comfortable enough to use his Jag-Stang on rare occaions for a whole show (57). Courtney gave the Jag-Stang to Peter Buck after Kurt passed away (41). He played it in the "What's the Frequency, Kenneth?" music video (seen 27), and Mike Mills plays it live on "Let Me In"

Source : Earnie Baley ( Kurt Road tech and guitar tech )



so i confused.
but i remember seem Alder and Basswood was first series of jag-stang on some AD
Humbucker was sound being copy of H3 , in truly is a cheap Generic PAF Copy.
my jag-stang come whit AD´s telling is a H3 Copy.

have pictures save somewhere my pc , soon was i find i upload

in true Fender not finished jag-stang

kurt choice was Alder body and 60´s mustang neck , Fender fucked up , basswood and general mustang neck it isnt same mustang kurt cobain neck profile or shape in real is a generic mustang neck.
kurt choice was Seymour duncan JB bridge and at neck Texas , fender send a shitty crappy generic bucker , neck was should be an Fender Texas Special at neck , comes whit an 60´s stratocaster generic copy
kurt choice was Gotoh tune-o-matic bridge , not mustang bridge.
kurt choice was gotoh tuners , mine come whit faking ping - made in china , are it serious ?
kurt was finished the changes on guitar and instead fender get kurt guitar and do an exactly copy plus curves , they did copy of prototype Custs too high for alder and dimarzio , (


wish for me means : fuck the people who will buy , cheap it , put basswood , put generic trash Fan´s will buy anyway



in true if i knew jag-stang was a prototype i was not went buy that shit. i was between a jaguar and the jag-stang , feel dumb not got an jaguar truly superior guitar

[robroe]

Here's mine, had it from new,original run, numbered in the low 2000's.
Body is definately basswood.
Used to have big tuning problems until i tightened the vibrato right down and it set up professionally.It plays awesome.

i want to see a photo of the number.

because i don't believe you.

[iCEByTes]

mine SN






Tuners Are Schaller M6 Mini Lock 6

[hotrodperlmutter]

c'mon icey, he was talking to that other dude.

[iCEByTes]

c'mon icey, he was talking to that other dude.

oh ops

[robroe]

im guessing that he has a U002xxx number which isn't first run at all.

mine is a T. i think maybe one or 2 other guys on here have had a T.

and its a T037xxx so it came out at the end of the year just before christmas. it sat on the showroom floor for about a month before my dad picked it up when i was a kid.

it predated the 60th anniversary sticker by 2 years (jagstangs with V#####'s had these). and had no designed by kurtd sticker on it anywhere

[robroe]

im really bummed that ploppy and his "first run 1996 jagstang" doesn't want to reply to this thread

fucking science. mine is a year older than yours

[Joey]

V031925

[Joey]

N + 6 digits 1993-1994
O + 6 digits 1993-1994
P + 6 digits 1993-1994
Q + 6 digits 1993-1994
S + 6 digits 1994-1995
T + 6 digits 1994-1995
U + 6 digits 1995-1996
N + 5 digits 1995-1996
V + 6 digits 1996-1997
Crafted in Japan A + 6 digits 1997-1998
Crafted in Japan O + 5 digits 1997-2000
Crafted in Japan P + 5 digits 1999-2002
Crafted in Japan Q + 5 digits 2002-2004
Crafted in Japan R + 5 digits 2004-2005

[h8mtv]

Sweet, mine is a 96/97 i guess. Starts with a V, 50th anniv. sticker and designed by Kurt sticker.

[jagsonic]

mine starts with u02 and has a neckstamp »95« and a bodystamp »95«. And has the sticker »Designed by Kurt Cobain« and the anniversary-sticker.

[robroe]

yes i modded one of the first jagstangs ever made in production into a pizza guitar. fucking smart right?