Can someone help me?

wetbelly · Post by **wetbelly** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:05 am

So.... Maybe I'm getting old and just can't figure out what the young fellers are saying these days, but what the hell does TEH KURDTZ mean?

superfuzz · Post by **superfuzz** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:08 am

Its making fun of Kurt Cobain

wetbelly · Post by **wetbelly** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:10 am

Well I kinda figured that, but is it just a general definition of good ol' razzing', or does it pertain mainly to the people that want the exact same guitars he played?

mkt3000 · Post by **mkt3000** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:17 am

There's nothing wrong with the actual instruments. In the case of the KC Jag and Mustang, it's how I'd spec mine out (minus the relicing on the Jag)

I think it's more poking fun at the big deal the manufacturers and fanboys are making about the instruments.

wetbelly · Post by **wetbelly** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:18 am

Mr. Superfuzz, after reading your blog a bit, it's refreshing to know that there's still good ol' fashion love to be found through music out there. Good for you sir.

wetbelly · Post by **wetbelly** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:23 am

mkt3000 wrote:There's nothing wrong with the actual instruments. In the case of the KC Jag and Mustang, it's how I'd spec mine out (minus the relicing on the Jag)

I think it's more poking fun at the big deal the manufacturers and fanboys are making about the instruments.

Ok, it's becoming clearer now. I've been seeing that phrase written quite a bit lately in other forums and this one and usually it's anytime I see a Sonic Blue Mustang, so I just wanted to clarify it a bit. It's odd that Cobain only played that Mustang for such a brief period, yet it will alway be tied to him. Why didn't Fender just make that the new signature Mustang?

mkt3000 · Post by **mkt3000** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:34 am

wetbelly wrote:
mkt3000 wrote:There's nothing wrong with the actual instruments. In the case of the KC Jag and Mustang, it's how I'd spec mine out (minus the relicing on the Jag)

I think it's more poking fun at the big deal the manufacturers and fanboys are making about the instruments.
Ok, it's becoming clearer now. I've been seeing that phrase written quite a bit lately in other forums and this one and usually it's anytime I see a Sonic Blue Mustang, so I just wanted to clarify it a bit. It's odd that Cobain only played that Mustang for such a brief period, yet it will alway be tied to him. Why didn't Fender just make that the new signature Mustang?

The fanboys will scream if one isn't offered in every color he played

If Fender wanted to be asses, they should sell them proportionally based on how often he played each instrument. "Oh, you want fiesta red? TOO BAD"

The thing is, I love Nirvana, and Kurt is part of the reason I picked up the guitar in the first place, and why I love offset guitars (as well as quirky 60's & 70's guitars). However, I don't make any effort to sound like him, dress like him, or play the same instruments he played. I just want a comfortable guitar that's loud as hell.

paul_ · Post by **paul_** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:37 am

It is far more derisive of diehard Cobain fans than anything else, it started at a time when the only official Cobain Fender product was the Jag-Stang. It stems from a combination of this forum's core members having splintered off from a Jag-Stang specific website where a huge majority of young guitar players who signed up with a new Jaguar, Mustang or Jag-Stang would immediately ask what they can do to make it sound more like Kurt Cobain's guitars. These guitars don't exactly offer the most accurate Nirvana guitar sounds right off the bat, because the ones Cobain had usually had different pickups & bridge to the stock vintage and/or reissue models, and all these modern models with tune-o-matics and humbuckers hadn't come out yet. The fact that even Cobain's signature Fender did not offer these sounds was a point of confusion for many who bought them.

Also, obviously being pretty big Cobain fans, some of these people would in fact refer to him as "Kurdt" which is how his name was spelled on the back of Nirvana's first album Bleach (Kurdt Kobain) due to either Cobain just screwing around (as he used this 'Kurdt' spelling in personal notes from around this period occasionally) and the guys printing the credits not knowing the correct spelling (biographer Michael Azerrad's explanation). Add to this the seminal meme methods of adding "z"s to the ends of things and purposely typo-ing "the", and it became "teh kurdtz jagstang!!!1!!"

So making fun of these people kind of shifted from 'why doesn't my jaguar sound like kurdt?' to 'how can I get kurdtz sonds??' to 'why doesn't my Mustang get teh kurdtz???' or 'how do u get teh kurdtz with a Jaguar?'
Later variations included an allusion to a medical condition requiring Cobain-spec accuracy, also known as having "a bad case of teh kurdtz" or "teh kurdtz real bad"

wetbelly · Post by **wetbelly** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:37 am

mkt3000 wrote:
wetbelly wrote:
mkt3000 wrote:There's nothing wrong with the actual instruments. In the case of the KC Jag and Mustang, it's how I'd spec mine out (minus the relicing on the Jag)

I think it's more poking fun at the big deal the manufacturers and fanboys are making about the instruments.
Ok, it's becoming clearer now. I've been seeing that phrase written quite a bit lately in other forums and this one and usually it's anytime I see a Sonic Blue Mustang, so I just wanted to clarify it a bit. It's odd that Cobain only played that Mustang for such a brief period, yet it will alway be tied to him. Why didn't Fender just make that the new signature Mustang?
The fanboys will scream if one isn't offered in every color he played

The thing is, I love Nirvana, and Kurt is part of the reason I picked up the guitar in the first place, and why I love offset guitars (as well as quirky 60's & 70's guitars). However, I don't make any effort to sound like him, dress like him, or play the same instruments he played. I just want a comfortable guitar that's loud as hell.

Well put. I too have always enjoyed Nirvana and see Kurt as a very talented soul, but it's kinda sad that some people go so far out of their way to have the same sound and equipment because Nirvana was a once in a lifetime type of band, they could never be duplicated.

gypsyseven · Post by **gypsyseven** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:43 am

wetbelly wrote:
Well put. I too have always enjoyed Nirvana and see Kurt as a very talented soul, but it's kinda sad that some people go so far out of their way to have the same sound and equipment because Nirvana was a once in a lifetime type of band, they could never be duplicated.

robroe · Post by **robroe** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:49 am

it applies to everything i do in life.

when i built the doogcaster, dotsmaster, that awesome white upside down tele for that assface that doesn't post here anymore......

all those guitars i cut a piece off of my jagstang tshirt and used it for the fabric that goes in between the strap nubbys.

all that shit gots teh kurdtz.

robroe · Post by **robroe** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:49 am

for a visual interpenetration of TEH KURDTZ click this link

http://www.shortscale.org/forum/viewtop ... 78&start=0

robroe · Post by **robroe** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:50 am

robroe · Post by **robroe** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:51 am

everything teh kurdtz did with guitar asthetics was good.

like who thought up fiesta + red tort n shit ? kurdtz did. then he dubed it roseland.

who put robroes on all his guitars. teh kurdtz did

wetbelly · Post by **wetbelly** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:10 am

robroe wrote:for a visual interpenetration of TEH KURDTZ click this link

http://www.shortscale.org/forum/viewtop ... 78&start=0

LOL, great link

Looks like you guys got a pretty good forum here. Thanks for the conversation. I'll be sticking around for sure