Hofner Senator E1

westtexasred · Post by **westtexasred** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:09 am

I got this today at my friends store.It's a Hofner Senator E1 made in the early 60s(?).It is missing the pick-guard and there is a repaired crack on the neck heal but other than that it is is in great condition. My friend let me have it for $200.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:13 am

That is rad! Come with the case?

Seems like a straight bargain for $200.

westtexasred · Post by **westtexasred** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:29 am

Nick wrote:That is rad! Come with the case?

Seems like a straight bargain for $200.

Thanks.Yeah,it was $200 with the case.

ekwatts · Post by **ekwatts** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:36 am

Fuck me. Jealous.

I take back what I said about acoustics in the other thread ONLY in the case of nice little archtops like this. Gorgeous.

gaybear · Post by **gaybear** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:51 am

Is the fretboard laquered?

westtexasred · Post by **westtexasred** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:17 am

Thanks! Yes it is. This the guitar Jeff Beck smashed in "Blow-up" ( at 1:30 in video below).

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Do you think this pick-guard looks like the one on the guitar in the video?.

gypsyseven · Post by **gypsyseven** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:01 am

Great guitar, congrats!

Gabriel · Post by **Gabriel** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:19 am

Awesome, I've been watching ebay over the past month or so hoping for one of these or a framus to come up for a good price (I unfortunately missed a lovely framus yesterday). Anyway, nice buy.

westtexasred · Post by **westtexasred** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:08 am

Thanks! I thought it was cool. John Lennon used to own a '58 Senator. (Christie's auction link)

UlricvonCatalyst · Post by **UlricvonCatalyst** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:23 am

Looks like the original pickup's been swapped out, but I guess you can't complain at that price.

kapepepper · Post by **kapepepper** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:49 pm

that is a steal

which era of hofner is it?

Looks like a late sixties looking at the hofner logo at the headstock
anyway it is beuatifull guitar and a demo would be appreciated

hotrodperlmutter · Post by **hotrodperlmutter** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:52 pm

dope.

westtexasred · Post by **westtexasred** » Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:03 am

kapepepper wrote:that is a steal

which era of hofner is it?

Looks like a late sixties looking at the hofner logo at the headstock
anyway it is beuatifull guitar and a demo would be appreciated

Thanks! It was made between 1962 and 1965.Musik Keller in Germany just emailed me that they have an original pickguard for my guitar. Like the one on Jeff Beck's "Blow-Up" Senator.

JJLipton · Post by **JJLipton** » Sat Feb 04, 2012 1:55 pm

I like your wall of mini amps. You should daisy chain them all together for maximum rock and roll.

hotrodperlmutter · Post by **hotrodperlmutter** » Sat Feb 04, 2012 3:28 pm

man, beck smashing that thing is awesome.

westtexasred · Post by **westtexasred** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:25 am

When I was a kid The Yardbirds played a concert at Staples High School in Westport CT,near were I lived.This must have been just a month or 2 after they filmed the scence in "Blow-Up". I was only 13 then and didn't hear about the show until after it had entered local legend.

Yardbirds arrive at JFK

On stage at Staples High School 8.22.66

Having tea backstage

Steve Tyler was at the Yardbirds concert at Staples High School. His band "Chain Reaction" opened for the Yardbirds

This is what he wrote in "Rolling Stone Magazine"

"Listen to "Somebody," a song I wrote for Aerosmith's first album: It's all from the Yardbirds. They were the **** to us, out of all the British bands in the Sixties. The Yardbirds were a bit of a mystery. They had an eclecticism â€” the Gregorian chant-ness of the vocals, the melodic diversity, the way they used guitar feedback. I loved that weirdness.

In the Sixties, I was in a band called Chain Reaction. We got to know the Yardbirds because they played at Staples High School in Westport, Connecticut, in 1966. We had a friend, Henry Smith, who had been our manager for a while, and he had gone to school there. He called me and said, "Steven, the Yardbirds are playing here, and you can open up." It was the lineup with Jeff Beck and Jimmy Page, who was playing bass on that tour. We waited all day for them to arrive. I grabbed their amps, they grabbed ours. We carried each other's gear in, because back then, that's what you did. Hence began the rumor that I was a roadie for the Yardbirds.

They did "Shapes of Things," "Beck's Boogie," among other songs. I was in such awe. They played like no other band. They weren't concerned with clothes or looks or hit singles. Their thing was "What do we do with these sounds?" They did things with harmonics â€” minor thirds and fifths â€” that created this ethereal, monstrous sound.

You hear it in every song â€” the way they could take the blues and turn it into a pop song like "For Your Love," then something psychedelic like "Shapes of Things," which has that weird middle. You can hear the click when Beck hits his fuzz box. Page, in the end, was the one who took those ideas all the way with Led Zeppelin. The two shows I remember where I just sat with my mouth open was that Yardbirds show, and Led Zeppelin at the Boston Tea Party in 1969.

As a singer, the thing I got out of the Yardbirds was that you don't have to have a great voice. It's all about attitude. He was a white boy who pushed it to the max. And he was a great harmonica player. You never heard Jagger hanging out on a single note the way Keith Relf could.

The shame is, I know how great the Yardbirds were. But I don't think everyone else knows it. The Yardbirds' music is a gold mine waiting to be stumbled upon. Aerosmith did, because we grew up in that era. The riff in "Walk This Way" is just us trying to explore the blues in the Yardbirds model. What the Yardbirds did is something you don't hear in today's blue-plate-special, cookie-cutter music. Everything is so canned and sliced up now. This was back when a band was a band. You had all those personalities, and they were all truly playing together. And I don't hear that today. The day of those bands, that wild stepping out, is gone."

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists ... z1lTf5tKyQ

westtexasred · Post by **westtexasred** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:26 am

UlricvonCatalyst wrote:Looks like the original pickup's been swapped out, but I guess you can't complain at that price.

Yes it looks like the pickup came from an Egmond President

westtexasred · Post by **westtexasred** » Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:39 am

I asked Musikkeller about pick ups for my guitar and they said I should send them pictures of what it looked like under the pickup I have now so they could see if they have the right pickup for it in stock.

Which style of Hofner pickup do you think would fit my guitar?

Which do you think would fit my guitar?

The 1965 style 510 pickup with a wide surround like this?

Or the the 1963 style with the narrow surround?

westtexasred · Post by **westtexasred** » Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:53 pm

One of the "Hofner Hounds" told me the narrow surround would fit but may not cover all the holes and
wide surround would cover the holes but it would probably require removing more of the top wood to fit it.
I think I am better off just leaving as is since the Egmond pickup works fine.

UlricvonCatalyst · Post by **UlricvonCatalyst** » Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:12 pm

Your guitar is from the '65-'68 period, yes? I would think the 510 would drop right in, but it would be an expensive lesson if it didn't.

You'd probably be best just sticking with the Egmond pickup. Beck didn't play that guitar in Blow-Up because he thought it was an amazing guitar, he played a cheap plank (as it would have been regarded at the time) because he knew he was going to smash it and didn't want to waste a good one.

Edit: Oops - it's from '62-'65 according to this. That being the case, the vintage correct pickup would be the other one, but the advice would remain the same.