how a sonic blue can become greeny quickly?

Johnny Noir · Post by **Johnny Noir** » Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:22 am

maybe stupid question: i need to sand my coat to apply a new tinted nitro coat? hmm i'm too crappy at work for that. maybe i knew someone for that; he makes nice guitars like that

his FB:

actualy my stang is between blue and green.
hard to take pictures 'cause the cheap cameras do a different blue (for people have nice holiday pictures with sky and sea). I need to ask to my wife, she's got a semi pro canon.

hotrodperlmutter · Post by **hotrodperlmutter** » Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:50 pm

that blacktop looks fake as hell.

nah, just spray the tinted clear over your existing finish, and it will yellow when it cures. give it time to cure if you do the nitro bit.

Joey · Post by **Joey** » Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:37 pm

Being the cheap broke ass mother fucker I am, I used Parks nitrocellulose sanding sealer. It has a real nice amber color and high solid contents... I sprayed it over the color and wet sanded through the forearm contour. You can see where it goes from white to yellowed.

Point is, I dunno, you'll think of something

Johnny Noir · Post by **Johnny Noir** » Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:14 am

thanks guys!
today i'm going to a DIY store to see what I can find.

gypsyseven · Post by **gypsyseven** » Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:17 am

Johnny Noir wrote:

A buzzstop on a Blacktop?

Johnny Noir · Post by **Johnny Noir** » Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:41 am

i don't know why i put this pic, not his better project, i think someone ask that

. he used to make cabronitas.

Johnny Noir · Post by **Johnny Noir** » Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:52 pm

i didn't find nothing cheaper than that:

http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie ... 1423.l2649

there is no amber or yewolled lacquer in my local DIY stores.

Mages · Post by **Mages** » Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:36 pm

that looks like the stuff.

Johnny Noir · Post by **Johnny Noir** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:37 am

they don't send aerosol outside UK.
if i buy a bottle, i don't have a spray gun.....

Joey · Post by **Joey** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 4:05 pm

Preval, can ya find something like this at a model shop?

Johnny Noir · Post by **Johnny Noir** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 4:30 pm

ah thanks, so easy

paul_ · Post by **paul_** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:15 pm

gypsyseven wrote:
Johnny Noir wrote:
A buzzstop on a Blacktop?

While perhaps not necessary for tension issues on any jaguar/jazzmaster that has the newer, lamer tailpiece placement, it would still completely alter the feel/sound of the guitar.

Johnny Noir · Post by **Johnny Noir** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:15 pm

the only thing i found in my local model store is that:

i tried in the back of the guitar, the spray wasn't enough thin. The color became more yellow than green.
i need a good sprayer..... i should order one on ebay.

Johnny Noir · Post by **Johnny Noir** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:43 pm

i took a lot of time but i found a preval sprayer.
I sprayed my amber nitro lacquer on the back of my sonic blue mustang. The result was more brown than green, ugly. I sprayed very slightly.
I didn't take pictures i put off quickly.

did i miss something? do you have tricks?

DGNR8 · Post by **DGNR8** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:49 pm

That looks brown, like for violins. You should be able to get clear nitro, and mix with it. You would only need 10% of that color to make it look tinted. It might be good for a neck color.

I did some searching on Google and found the translation, which makes me think of varnish. Here is a vendor for an aerosol spray in France. I think the links are places where they sell their stuff. Not sure. This white guitar is Canadian.

Vernis Nitrocellulosique

Eluth SARL
92 Banlieue vers Ruesnes
59530 Le Quesnoy
contact@eluth.com

www.laguitare.com
www.annuairedubois.com
www.lutherie-amateur.com
www.kamelchenaouy.forumactif.com

Johnny Noir · Post by **Johnny Noir** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:46 am

thank you! i did a lot of research about where to find some nitro lacquer, and you find something close to my place! crazy.
i'm gonna contact them.

61fury · Post by **61fury** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:46 pm

I'm curious and not that it's anyone's intent on this thread, can a yellowed guitar sprayed with lacquer be polished out like an old car that had been sprayed with lacquer?
Again I know that's not a desirable thing to do with a vintage guitar, just asking. Jack

DGNR8 · Post by **DGNR8** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 1:34 am

So you're asking if you polish the yellowed part enough, if the yellow will come out, or if it will get shiny?

I know you can make it shiny, but the yellow may be through the layers of clear. If it is a color underneath, you may be able to get the yellow off (by removing thin layers). If you wanted it badly enough you could buff off the clear and re-spray it with clear lacquer that doesn't yellow. The beauty of nitro is that it will all melt together into one shell.

I can see liking the real Lake Placid over a green version, but I wouldn't want to monkey with it when you can get one that isn't yellowed.

Joey · Post by **Joey** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 5:42 pm

I never understood why clear coat ages... but color coat never does. There are so many examples of Olympic White 60's guitars that never received a clear coat, because Fender rushed them out the door, that are still as bright as the day they sprayed them. You'd think nitrocellulose lacquer clear gloss would react the same way as nitrocellulose lacquer color over time. Maybe it does age, but cause the clear coat is transparent and you are looking through layers and layers of it, it's more obvious?

61fury · Post by **61fury** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 6:19 pm

DGNR8 wrote:So you're asking if you polish the yellowed part enough, if the yellow will come out, or if it will get shiny?

I know you can make it shiny, but the yellow may be through the layers of clear. If it is a color underneath, you may be able to get the yellow off (by removing thin layers). If you wanted it badly enough you could buff off the clear and re-spray it with clear lacquer that doesn't yellow. The beauty of nitro is that it will all melt together into one shell.

I can see liking the real Lake Placid over a green version, but I wouldn't want to monkey with it when you can get one that isn't yellowed.

Something like that, or like if some one who owned the guitar from new, if they polished it on a regular basis, would it yellow like that?