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laterallateral wrote:Well, that's a good guitar story.
I personally think it doesn't look good but I'm not the one playing it, so who gives a shit, right?

I think playing this thing helps one appreciate it.

laterallateral wrote:alt-denialist, eh?
That sounds awfully restrictive to me.
Surely you don't mean to say that you make a point of listening to nothing but bland, overplayed, formulaic pop music.

Um, no, it doesn't mean that. I tend not to listen to all that much stuff which is on the radio, or even off-radio "pop" music.

When I was an infant and toddler (very early 1960s), I listened mostly to the (then new) out jazz. Made my parents despair.

Then I was listening to a "black liberation" format station, so for me there was Motown, then James Brown and Sly Stone, then George Clinton.

Then I listened almost exclusively to jazz until college, (1976-1980) when I joined a Zappa/Little Feat cover band. Many of our opening set tunes were Stones, Beatles, occasionally some Allman Brothers. It was pretty comical - someone would call up some Beatles tune in rehearsal, and I would be hearing it for the first time.

So I have a pretty long history of not listening to pop music.

What I'm listening to on my player these days

Derek Trucks - Songlines (waiting for that new one to come out)
David Lindley and Wally Ingram - Live in Europe!
Eddie Harris - The Best of Eddie Harris
Lowell George - Thanks I'll Eat it Here
Mike Henderson and the Bluebloods - First Blood
Paul Thorn - Mission Temple Fireworks Stand
North Mississippi All Stars - Hill Country Revue
Pearls and Brass - Pearls and Brass (technically some people might have them as some sort of "alt-" but I would disagree)
Captain Beyond - Captain Beyond
Sonia Dada - Lay Down and Love it Live
Royal Fingerbowl - Happy Birthday, Sabo!
Mose Allison - The Best of Mose Allison
Junior Wells - Hoodoo Man Blues
Los Lobos - Colossal Head and This Time
Michael Powers - Onyx Root, Prodigal Son, Live at the Living Room
Scott Henderson - Tore Down House
Chizmo Charles - Up All Night
Brother Stump - Broke

I'm not sure that more than half of this is popular music, despite the best intentions of the artists.

By the way about the YBA-1 in the signature. I played one once that was really great into this Hiwatt style 4x12 cab with Fanes. Very nice.

aen wrote:RObert Original!

That sounds familiar, I think in the context of guitar builders, but I can't place it. Probably because I am a noob.

I see what you're saying there.
For the record I didn't mean any disrespect in questioning your anti-alt stance.
It's just that I don't really understand the meaning of 'alt' in the context of music genres when no reference to what 'alt' opposes is mentioned.
A quick wikipedia search on the bands and projects you listed indicates a strong heavy blues/stoner rock leaning.
I think you'll find alot of shortscalers are down with that kind of stuff.

laterallateral wrote:I see what you're saying there.
For the record I didn't mean any disrespect in questioning your anti-alt stance.
It's just that I don't really understand the meaning of 'alt' in the context of music genres when no reference to what 'alt' opposes is mentioned.
A quick wikipedia search on the bands and projects you listed indicates a strong heavy blues/stoner rock leaning.
I think you'll find alot of shortscalers are down with that kind of stuff.

Well "alt-" turns out to have been a marketing tool. I remember back in the day when some of the "hippest" young A&R men were turning cartwheels over finally getting the Police onto FM radio. They thought they had kicked down the doors and driven the "Establishment" money changers from the temple. Well, yes, A&R men are like that. It's also pretty funny since my best friend is a sometime big time music producer who has really made his reputation with many "alt-" bands athough by no means is that his only work. So I like all sorts stuff, but hardly any of the newer stuff he's been up to. I can tell it's serious well crafted music since I know a little about what goes into producing it - I've just never been able to really like much of it.

And yeah, I do have a huge stoner/classic-ish rock streak, but I cover a lot of other territory (doesn't everyone as time goes on?) It's probably just my personal experience but most of the short scale players I have met personally were in the alt- world. It's good to hear that this scale length gets appreciation in other genres. The big deal for me with scale length is the huge sustain you can get with big big strings, and the extra overtone sauce you get because the harmonics of the heavy string have a bit more deviation from the pure multiples of the fundamental that you get with lighter strings. Another reason I use the humbuckers is because the aperture of the humbuckers is a bigger fraction of the string than say, on 25.5" scale. Again, this lets a little bit more harmonic color through, and you can get a little more bite compared to humbuckers on the longer scale guitar.

It's also too band you had to check with Wiki for those bands, though, yeah, I know music doesn't have to be popular to be good, but a good deal of the stuff I listed ought to be more popular than it has been so far.

DuoSonicBoy wrote:

I find it awesome
like vista musicmaster
only tuxedo!

Haiku points!

DuoSonicBoy wrote:

I find it awesome
like vista musicmaster
only tuxedo!

did I miss something? are you responding to all threads in haiku?

...a refin we'd probably never do... but it looks kinda hot, eh?


yes the band is (literally) half gay, but he sure gets some great sounds outta his old 'stangs.
enjoy!

Pat.

-like, there's a saying here in mexico that translates basically so:
"being gay is a MAN thing"



Pat.

ps: ok ok time to pour myself another drink... *hip*

ordered one of these
http://www.wdmusic.com/fender_duosonic_ ... r_901.html
so it'll be black on black on black black sex black maple

will the JB + Jazz JR fit under a mustang cover?????????

Haze wrote:ordered one of these
http://www.wdmusic.com/fender_duosonic_ ... r_901.html
so it'll be black on black on black black sex black maple

will the JB + Jazz JR fit under a mustang cover?????????

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my newly completed duo sonic project.
however, this is an older picture where it is not completed. i haven't gotten around to taking new photos.
but it looks pretty much the same, except there are little screws in all the holes, it has strap buttons, and the bridge
is on straight.

Fender custom shop 50's pickups
65 size B mustang neck
reissue duo sonic bridge

MutantParty wrote:

Haze wrote:ordered one of these
http://www.wdmusic.com/fender_duosonic_ ... r_901.html
so it'll be black on black on black black sex black maple

will the JB + Jazz JR fit under a mustang cover?????????

[youtube][/youtube]

holly fuck that made my LIFE

and nice project, lookin pretty good

still the question, will the jb./jazz jr fit under a robroe?

Nah, I've tried.

fuck

Haze wrote:

MutantParty wrote:

Haze wrote:ordered one of these
http://www.wdmusic.com/fender_duosonic_ ... r_901.html
so it'll be black on black on black black sex black maple

will the JB + Jazz JR fit under a mustang cover?????????

[youtube][/youtube]

holly fuck that made my LIFE

and nice project, lookin pretty good

still the question, will the jb./jazz jr fit under a robroe?

haha, epic lulz.

whats a jb jr? is that like some kinda rail 'bucker? I think robroe fit one under a robroe once (l.o.l.)

JB Jr:

robroe wrote:the all black one is amazing. total 70's vibe from late 90's parts.

getting there...

Shit! That white one is exactly what I've been making on the builder thing :o

Here's mine so far:

From a few months ago:


From a few days ago:


Next step is a Jaguar switch plate to control coil splitting the bucker, phase reversal, and kill switch.

Then a 24" neck if I can find a good deal on one.

Hopefully she'll look like this mock up at some point: