Danelectro DC59s and the like

sholkham · Post by **sholkham** » Tue Mar 10, 2015 2:18 pm

Can you get that Gretsch in silver sparkle a la Billy Zoom?

Freddy V-C · Post by **Freddy V-C** » Tue Mar 10, 2015 6:48 pm

Doog wrote:

Almost definitely not worth the price, but this is dreamy.

Single cut version perhaps even more so...

dezb1 · Post by **dezb1** » Tue Mar 10, 2015 8:03 pm

Freddy V-C wrote:
Doog wrote:
Almost definitely not worth the price, but this is dreamy.

Single cut version perhaps even more so...

Top one looks like the gfs earl slick guitars

http://www.guitarfetish.com/zoomify.asp ... l59_sg.jpg

timhulio · Post by **timhulio** » Tue Mar 10, 2015 8:37 pm

Makes some kind of sense, as Slick was a Framus endorser and played his Hollywood sig guitar when I saw him play with New York Dolls a few years back.

Post by **Doog** » Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:39 pm

I scoped those Slick Rickers a while back, but the motherfuckers are always sold-out!

paul_ · Post by **paul_** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 12:26 am

I love that doublecut one so much, I googled prices and shat a frisbee tho.

HNB · Post by **HNB** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:05 am

Only thing that bugged me about the Dano I had was the trim around the edges. It wasn't cleanly cut and was poorly glued on in my opinion and the pickguard looked like what most use for cutting guards. LOL

Post by **Doog** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:59 am

HNB wrote:Only thing that bugged me about the Dano I had was the trim around the edges. It wasn't cleanly cut and was poorly glued on in my opinion and the pickguard looked like what most use for cutting guards. LOL

THIS... uh.. THESE.

It instantly made me go "ugh' when I finally laid eyes on it in the flesh, before I even tried to play it.

Sure it's super-kitschy-kooky, but you'd expect a guitar at that price point to at least be put together better than the cheapest eBay Strat knock-off.

ekwatts · Post by **ekwatts** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 1:29 pm

It's a bit odd. The original reissue Danos were basically the same as the originals. Cheap, cheap and more cheap. But still good. Infectiously good. At Â£99 back in 2001 I could forgive a bit of a rough edge to some of the vinyl tape binding.

But at Â£300+ a few years later, with only a few minor upgrades to justify the jump, I can't really see what the higher asking price is for, other than than the surcharge you get with big brands for the privilege of buying into their mystique. No thanks.

Not that they're bad. They're just not Â£300+ good.

timhulio · Post by **timhulio** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 1:55 pm

ekwatts wrote:. At Â£99 back in 2001

Yeah they were never quite that cheap. I almost bought a U3 NOS from a shop in 2003 and that was Â£250 discounted. Although like the DC-3, the bridge and tuners are better on those.
Here's the catalogue. I love this range - look at all those colours and funny blueberry bursts. The U1 looks like great fun, but I never saw one when they were around.
http://www.danguitars.com/uploads/Danelectro_1999.pdf

I'm going to have to try one of the new ones to compare it to the 90s reissues. I did not like the 2007-ish DC-59 I briefly owned, but not for any of the reasons above - it feeling insubstantial, badly put-together. Rather that it was too substantial or solid feeling and the pickups didn't sound very lipsticky.

Did HNB just complain the pickguard is made of formica? That's kinda the point - it's not like other guitars in construction. If you approach them only having played conventional solidbodies then of course they're gonna feel different.

ekwatts · Post by **ekwatts** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:40 pm

timhulio wrote:
ekwatts wrote:. At Â£99 back in 2001
Yeah they were never quite that cheap. I almost bought a U3 NOS from a shop in 2003 and that was Â£250 discounted. Although like the DC-3, the bridge and tuners are better on those.
Here's the catalogue. I love this range - look at all those colours and funny blueberry bursts. The U1 looks like great fun, but I never saw one when they were around.
http://www.danguitars.com/uploads/Danelectro_1999.pdf

I'm going to have to try one of the new ones to compare it to the 90s reissues. I did not like the 2007-ish DC-59 I briefly owned, but not for any of the reasons above - it feeling insubstantial, badly put-together. Rather that it was too substantial or solid feeling and the pickups didn't sound very lipsticky.

Did HNB just complain the pickguard is made of formica? That's kinda the point - it's not like other guitars in construction. If you approach them only having played conventional solidbodies then of course they're gonna feel different.

My U2 was Â£99 in a sale, so obviously way below the "normal price", but I saw them heavily discounted to sub-Â£200 prices regularly depending on the models.

There were posher models that tended to stay near their RRPs.

Post by **Doog** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 8:25 pm

timhulio wrote:
I'm going to have to try one of the new ones to compare it to the 90s reissues. I did not like the 2007-ish DC-59 I briefly owned, but not for any of the reasons above - it feeling insubstantial, badly put-together. Rather that it was too substantial or solid feeling and the pickups didn't sound very lipsticky.

Get down Wunjo and try out the ones I did. Would be interested to know if they're lemons or representative.

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:36 pm

ekwatts wrote:It's a bit odd. The original reissue Danos were basically the same as the originals. Cheap, cheap and more cheap. But still good. Infectiously good. At Â£99 back in 2001 I could forgive a bit of a rough edge to some of the vinyl tape binding.

But at Â£300+ a few years later, with only a few minor upgrades to justify the jump, I can't really see what the higher asking price is for, other than than the surcharge you get with big brands for the privilege of buying into their mystique. No thanks.

Not that they're bad. They're just not Â£300+ good.

Agreed.
Fun guitars and all that but ridiculous prices these days. A bit disappointing to think the whole build process was intended to keep them affordable, masonite with a vinyl finish is about as cheap as it gets. I could knock them bodies out in my garden shed.

The old U2 I owned looked cool and had an intriguing sound, but its playabilty and feel was that of a cheaply made guitar.

Post by **Doog** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:40 pm

Today's guitare du jour:

Have loved those 'Recording' Les Pauls since I clasped eyes on them.. and now Mr Entwhistle does one that is currently going for Â£270 on Hotrox. Bonkers.

Freddy V-C · Post by **Freddy V-C** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 6:12 pm

Bloody hell, Doog. I just shat my pants.

I really need to be saving money for a car but GOD DAMN.

Any idea what those pickups are? Like, literally the most detailed description I can find just says "Features a first class pickup design, courtesy of UK guitar guru Alan Entwistle."

Post by **Doog** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:02 pm

It's not what I want right now, but it's amazing to know there's something like this out there, especially for that price.

www.mylespaul.com to the rescue!

Standard 3 way pickup toggle selector.
3 way Tone Lever Switch.
Phase Switch.
Volume 1 Neck.
Volume 2 Bridge.
Smooth Control.
Density Control.

The Pickup selector switch is just that, it selects the two "Entwistle NeoTron" Numbuckers in the normal fashion ie: Up: Neck Centre: Neck and Bridge. Down: Bridge.

The 3 way lever tone switch selects the the various coils within the two humbuckers.

Pos 3: is the the full humbuckers (varied by the pickup selector toggle switch)

Pos 2: Is the neck outer single, the neck single and bridge inner coil, and the bridge inner coil. (note: the above is the case when the phase switch in on the "IN" position, when it is on the "OUT" position we get: Neck single, Neck and bridge outer coil out of phase, and Bridge outer single.)

Pos 1: is: Neck inner single coil. Neck inner single and Bridge outer single, bridge outer single. (note: the above is the case when the phase switch is on the "IN" position, when it is on the "OUT" position we get: Neck inner single, Neck and Bridge inner single, Bridge inner single.)

This last selection (position 1 on the lever switch, and phase selector set at "OUT" with the pickup selector at centre, is quite a useful setting if it is used in conjunction with the two volume controls, if one of the volumes is lowered slightly you get a partial "out of phase effect" which mimics the sound of a 3 pickup guitar when set on positions 2 and 4 of a 5 way switch.

Phase switch: This puts the two Entwistle NeoTron pickups in or out phase with each other, this works when both pickups are combined, but it also changes the coil section on the bridge pickup from outer to inner coil, giving two quite different single coils

The Smooth Control: This does what it says it says, when the control is rolled back the pickup or pickups selected sound smoother, this is not a normal tone control it does not go muddy, it kind of goes "more vintage".

The Density Control: This is a very useful control as it changes the DC resistance of the pickups. The full bridge Humbucker measures 15Kohms, which is a modern high gain pickup like the Entwistle Dark Star, but start to roll back this control and it changes all the way down to 5K ohms, which is similar to a Country Rock type pickup such as the Entwistle Nashville Star. Of course the beauty of the Density control is that as you turn it you go through the DCR specs of almost every pickup ever made!

Couple this with the coil selecting options and Smooth Control and you get what amounts to 100's of different pickups sounds

First impressions: fit and finish is very good. Its neck is 60's style and plays very similar to my Gibson Classic Custom & my Epiphone 1960 Tribute Les Paul and has a very flat fingerboard with plastic feeling inlays. Action was decent, a little high, but overall very playable. Frets were level just needed a polish.

Sound: This thing doesn't sound like any modern les paul but that wasn't the idea behind it. I recently played a gibson re-issued Recording model and have to say though the revelation sounded slightly darker their wasn't that much difference (certainly when you condsider the Gibson is 8 times the price).

Overall: A great unusual take on the classic that others something special someone willing to try something a little different.

I'm Happy with it

P.S sorry for the crappy picture, better one coming when camera back from repairers.

http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/other-s ... -copy.html

Freddy V-C · Post by **Freddy V-C** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:12 pm

Blimey, that's mind-boggling.

Post by **Doog** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:17 pm

Also available in these more expensive and less attractive flavours (really wish they did that mahogany one with a Bigsby)

So tempted but the mahogany one, unnnnnngh

benecol · Post by **benecol** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:28 pm

Bet they would/could.

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:34 pm

They have those in my local shop, look decent but I haven't played one.
I thought it was a Marauder in the corner of my eye...

They have that 12 string Jazzmaster thing in as well.