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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:15 pm
by benecol
Rox wrote: It's an earlier one . They came in that configuration . Took off the lipstick over .
That's not true at all - the Baja has never been offered with anything but a maple neck and black or white single-ply guards. That's (at the very least east) a Baja with a different neck and guard.

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 4:04 pm
by Rox
Good observation . It's actually a 60s Player modded . Nice to see folks that know their guitars . :wink:

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:00 pm
by benecol
Rox wrote: It's actually a 60s Player modded .
ANother guitar that doesn't exist. You mean Classic?

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:32 am
by Rox
benecol wrote:
Rox wrote: It's actually a 60s Player modded .
ANother guitar that doesn't exist. You mean Classic?
Ugh. :?
http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/prod ... D=26040957


Hate when I play and they don't get my humor.... :roll:

You're not now gonna tell me I'm imagining the tele and it's a figment of my imagination , right ?

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:05 am
by hotrodperlmutter
benecol would never tell you that. ninja speaks the truth.

incidentally, a 60's player came up on CL today for tree-fiddy. if i had it, i'd do it.

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:55 am
by Bacchus
How many different versions of the Squier '51 were there? I was near certain there was just one run, but that quality was inconsistent throughout, so some guitars are very good, and a lot were awful.

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:57 am
by Nick
Just one run of 51's.....Every one I played was pretty horrible.

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 4:09 am
by Rox
BacchusPaul wrote:How many different versions of the Squier '51 were there? I was near certain there was just one run, but that quality was inconsistent throughout, so some guitars are very good, and a lot were awful.
Bingo . I have 2. Obvious differences in build quality. One was a 2005 and the other was a 2007 . The 2007 the wood is just shit . Took em both apart and it just showed . The older ones were just made better .



Don't know how people would say all 51s were horrible . Electrics kinda sucked like most other Squiers but if you change out the pickups and pots and they're great . Stock they're just blah.

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 4:18 am
by Bacchus
Nick wrote:Just one run of 51's.....Every one I played was pretty horrible.
Was it you who worked in GC and reckoned that 9/10 were rubbish? I think I remember hearing that somewhere, that there were so many different things that they seemed to get wrong on any given example, but there was the odd guitar that didn't have any of the faults and was great.

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Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 4:21 am
by lancer88
i always like the replacement guards that guitarfetish sold for the 51's, kinda make me sad i sold mine before i saw em.

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 4:31 am
by Bacchus
Rox wrote:One was a 2005 and the other was a 2007 . The 2007 the wood is just shit . Took em both apart and it just showed . The older ones were just made better
Also, I remember when I bought mine, they'd just been discontinued so I got a good price on it. That was 2006, maybe? I'm near certain they stopped making them at some point in 2006.

I really don't think there was any difference between earlier and later ones, rather that the run was inconsistent.

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 6:01 pm
by Rox
I'm certain it was a 2 year run . Pretty sure it was 2006-2007. Could be wrong . There was a time you were able to get one for as low as $80 here in the US . Now they go for a bit more since they've gained some popularity with the collectors and hobbyists . Especially if they're stock ( which they're mostly modded by now , I've seen few bone stock ) . Why ? Cuz folks wanna mod with a clean canvas I reckon.


All I know is I had 2 . 1 later , one earlier . The later one the body wood was mealy and easy to strip screws . The older one has better body wood and actually a nicer maple neck . Just more solid .

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 7:25 pm
by Billy3000
Yea, I remember playing a bunch of 51's and a few were amazing, and most were garbage. It was usually things like sharp fret ends, and other quality control issues that could probably be fixed if you wanted to. But the ones that felt and looked great right out of the factory were well worth the money. The pickups weren't great, but I do remember when they were on sale for $79 at one point, you could grab one and some GFS pickups and have an amazing sounding guitar for under $150.

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:33 pm
by Will
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These three do everything I want.

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:45 pm
by Vis
Not all of the later ones are bad. I got one of the clearance ones from MF for $80 and its a little belter. Best cheap guitar I've ever played. That isn't to say there aren't certain issues with them but nearly all of them are fixable. The stock bridge is garbage - uses through body saddles on a top loading bridge and will "float" and hence buzz if adjusted too low. The ends of the height screws are sharp as all hell and will tear up your hand if you do a lot of palm muting. The body is made out of wet cardboard - you have to be really careful with the screws if you go modding - they'll strip if you look at them funny. Pickups are a matter of taste as always. I quite like the stock ones. The 51 definitely has a distinctive voice which is something you can't say for many cheapies. Only mod I've done apart from a setup and smoothing the sharp fret ends is a replacement bridge from GFS. I'll probably replace the pickguard one of these days. The stock one is pretty cheesy.

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:20 am
by Nick
BacchusPaul wrote:
Nick wrote:Just one run of 51's.....Every one I played was pretty horrible.
Was it you who worked in GC and reckoned that 9/10 were rubbish? I think I remember hearing that somewhere, that there were so many different things that they seemed to get wrong on any given example, but there was the odd guitar that didn't have any of the faults and was great.
Yeah, it was me. Oddly enough when we had them new most of them were crap, but every time we got in a used one (often sold between $59.99 and $89.99 depending on condition, mods done etc) they were awesome. I'm guessing it's a combination of people either getting them set up after buying a dud, or the lot of the shitty ones ending up in the hands of kids and beginning guitarists who are so put off by the jagged frets and bad action that they gave up playing guitar all together.

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:30 pm
by James
This was posted elsewhere by the missus. Some are hers, some her dads (the tele and probably a couple of the others) and one is mine (Coronado **happy**)

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Back row L-R
-Martin DM
-Martin acoustic kit model
-really, really old Dobro

Front row L-R
-1966 (I think that's the right year, at least) Hagstrom Kent model
-Squier Venus
-1957 Fender Telecaster
-1967 Fender Coronado II
-Lotus Les Paul rip-off
-Schecter TSH-1 Diamond Series semi-hollow

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:32 pm
by ohyeahfuzzbear
:shock: Wow. I'm loving that Hagstrom.

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:00 pm
by DICHOTOMY
ohyeahfuzzbear wrote::shock: Wow. I'm loving that Hagstrom.

same. im not usually into blue guitars in general but that color makes that shape pop. very nice.

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:24 pm
by Thom
James wrote:This was posted elsewhere by the missus. Some are hers, some her dads (the tele and probably a couple of the others) and one is mine (Coronado **happy**)

Image

Back row L-R
-Martin DM
-Martin acoustic kit model
-really, really old Dobro

Front row L-R
-1966 (I think that's the right year, at least) Hagstrom Kent model
-Squier Venus
-1957 Fender Telecaster
-1967 Fender Coronado II
-Lotus Les Paul rip-off
-Schecter TSH-1 Diamond Series semi-hollow
That's a nice collection! Actual '57 Tele?!