The Billy1802t

laterallateral · Post by **laterallateral** » Wed May 11, 2011 3:43 am

Thanks!
I wouldn't touch it untill you've let the thing cure for a week.

I started bolting things on the Hagstrom way too early and fucked up the finish pretty bad.
I'm going to have to do it all over again, sometime.

It's so hard to resist, though.

Joey · Post by **Joey** » Wed May 11, 2011 2:16 pm

"Home Depot Sign" lmao, your wife sounds like she's related to mine

If you got lots of "ORANGE peel"

you may want to start at 320 wetsanding... if it's under control you can start at 400 - 600 grits. I stop at 1500, but you can get up to 2000. I use water (you can add some dish soap), as long as you plug all the screw holes & all the cavities are sealed, otherwise the wood will swell and crack the finish around the holes. Other guys use baby oil or odorless mineral spirits. I use the black rubber block sander from Home Depot, they work great. Try to use a block as much as you can, but certain area's you just may have to use your hands. When sanding & buffing, remember paint is always the thinnest on the edge of the guitar so try not to over do those area's or you'll get a "burn thourgh".

The longer you wait for the finish to cure, the harder it is... the better results you get. I'd imagine a week on poly should be fine. I prefer "nitrocellulose lacquer" to hang for 30 days.

I use my air compressor & 6" random orbitable sander w/ buffing pads on it for buffing. For the sides & belly contour your better off going to the auto store and buying a $20 cone buffer attachment you can use on a drill press (make sure you cover the metal pole with towels, in case the guitar gets thrown) or drill. I use StewMac rubbing compound, I've got 3 grits. ReRanch forum can recommend auto store buffing compound that's more readily available for you locally. I smear a shitload of compound on the pad & guitar... the pad can be really dry at first so I spray a mist of water on it till it's just moist enough. As I'm winding down buffing on one grit of compound, I start spraying more and more water.... thinning out the compound so it's really wet. I guess, I think it helps to transition from one grit to another easier... it makes the compound finer.

By the time you get to the last grit of compound, start wiping the guitar down good. Hold it up to the light and try to find any scratches you couldn't see before and correct em by going back over it with rough grit compound. After all the rubbing compound is used, I use StewMac Swirl Remover. Then spray & polish up with flannel & Martins Guitar Polish.

I've read ReRanch & other finishing articles... and everyone is different. You just gotta find what works for you.

cur · Post by **cur** » Wed May 11, 2011 4:32 pm

I am using gloss acrylic lacquer for my clear coat. As long as I get a "wet" coat on without making drips, it seems to give a very nice finish. I had a slight orange peel with my basecoat, but not with the gloss. I was able to get rid of the orange peel with wet sanding 800 grit. I did it by hand.

cur · Post by **cur** » Wed May 11, 2011 8:08 pm

This is sort of what I got. Still need to do more clear and then light sand and buff.

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hotrodperlmutter · Post by **hotrodperlmutter** » Wed May 11, 2011 8:16 pm

not close to the original rendering, but i think it looks fucking GRRREATTTTT

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Joey · Post by **Joey** » Wed May 11, 2011 10:00 pm

Looking good. You got me wanting a orange compstang...

We you able to get thumb print out with the acrylic lacquer gloss?

cur · Post by **cur** » Wed May 11, 2011 10:39 pm

Joey wrote:Looking good. You got me wanting a orange compstang...

We you able to get thumb print out with the acrylic lacquer gloss?

Yes, I got it out. I kept buffing with 2000 grit until it was gone. But the print had gone down the the wood so I had to hit it with a dusting of the spray base coat. Then I I put some more clear coat on.

cur · Post by **cur** » Thu May 19, 2011 4:58 am

I have let it dry for a while. Then, some how, put a big old scratch in it that was down to bare wood. Don't know where that came from but no one in my family owned it. So it must have been the Knob Creek. So I fixed that. Then went from 800 through the grits to 2000 wet sanding. For fun I hit it with 3M glaze compound and took a picture. I am going to let it sit for another week and then use my 3M rubbing compound and then several glaze coats. Then finish it off with a wax or polymer sealant. So the posting will be dormant for a while.

Billy, if you make it home for a visit this summer I insist you stop by for a beer and inspection. I have had a lot of fun with this project so far, thanks for giving me a shot at it.

Billy3000 · Post by **Billy3000** » Thu May 19, 2011 5:09 am

This looks amazing dude! I would love to stop by and try it out! I'll be up there more often this summer I think. Possibly the weekend of june 10th for my brother's birthday. I'll let you know for sure!

cur · Post by **cur** » Thu May 19, 2011 5:14 am

Billy3000 wrote:This looks amazing dude! I would love to stop by and try it out! I'll be up there more often this summer I think. Possibly the weekend of june 10th for my brother's birthday. I'll let you know for sure!

Cool

Nothing planned for that weekend.

hotrodperlmutter · Post by **hotrodperlmutter** » Fri May 20, 2011 12:49 am

moar pics dude

FFS

Stuart · Post by **Stuart** » Fri May 20, 2011 5:01 am

This looks mega.

I'm actually doing my bullet orange, I should update that project thread.

cur · Post by **cur** » Sat May 21, 2011 3:58 am

hotrodperlmutter wrote:moar pics dude

FFS

Not sure if you're giving me the business or not, but I got nothing better to do than wax/on..... wax/off. So here is a wax/off shot.

hotrodperlmutter · Post by **hotrodperlmutter** » Sat May 21, 2011 4:40 am

cur wrote:Not sure if you're giving me the business or not

NEVR. <3

cur wrote:

badassery

can't wait for assembled pics. srsly, i think about this guitar more than the ones i play on the daily.

laterallateral · Post by **laterallateral** » Sat May 21, 2011 7:13 am

cur wrote:

So fucking badass!

Delirium · Post by **Delirium** » Sat May 21, 2011 10:19 pm

Whoa, that thing looks wicked! What kind of trem is on it? Never seen one like that before.
Kinda reminds me of the Lead II Strat with that pickguard.

cur · Post by **cur** » Sun May 22, 2011 2:25 am

Delirium wrote:Whoa, that thing looks wicked! What kind of trem is on it? Never seen one like that before.
Kinda reminds me of the Lead II Strat with that pickguard.

It's like a Jag trem with a bridge built in. They were on a couple styles of Japanese guitars built in the early 70's i think. The trem really ties together the look of the guitar.

Narco Martenot · Post by **Narco Martenot** » Sun May 22, 2011 6:03 am

Really cool guitar, and nice colour! I've been wanting to order some custom paint from that company for a while now.

JohnnyTheBoy · Post by **JohnnyTheBoy** » Sat May 28, 2011 12:33 am

Looking Good Cur..great colour, fab shape, shiney shiney, and those pickups look cool as fuck!...hubba hubba!!
Reach round and give ones self a pat on the back..heh!

cur · Post by **cur** » Mon May 30, 2011 2:18 am

Rock n Roll machine. Warning do not click unless you are wanting to see Rock and Roll Machine.

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