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Is it vintage radius? Or more modern 12" radius? If its the later put some lighter strings on it until you get used to what you are trying to achieve.

TBH I don't think it's about radius and stuff all that much. Robert Fripp can burn almost anyone off the fretboard when he lets loose and he plays a Les Paul!

It's modern Fender so 9.5". It could be setup related but this is as low as I can get with my skills and 10 strings

Yeah, a lot of players do really well with anything. I figure I need a shredder to make the initial process easier then I'll be able to use it on any guitar.

I can rip around the board on most necks if I'm in the mood but I get where George is coming from, having the right design guitar seems to inspire the whole process even more. The only downside is when the fad wears off you are left with a guitar you will hardly use.

Get one of these!
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Yellow is an important colour for any would be shredder.

Haha, well the idea is to have one to train up on and learn all this speed technique. I mean, I know it's possible on a Strat but there's a reason you don't see many everyday shredders using them. It's just too much bloody effort and I want this to be easy street

rps-10 wrote:Yellow is an important colour for any would be shredder.

You honestly have no idea how much I want a proper 80s neon dayglo shredder of some sort. One humbucker, one pot type arrangement.



That is total shred mode.

These Dean's are about £200, about as Neon Green as you will ever get..

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I saw them. Would probably buy the pink one but they must be absolute shit.

£229 NEW is a fair price George and you seem set on the design.

I can't break my programming.

I've been brainwashed into getting 80s-90s MIJ by you guys and there's no turning back.

There's also that ebay page I can probably low ball £150 on for the same greenie Gunslinger

I'm not dead set on a neon, ultimately it just needs to be a good shredder for the price (but neon, blank pickups and pointy headstock would be nice)

In fact the ultimate would be a maple board on top of that.

George wrote:I've been brainwashed into getting 80s-90s MIJ by you guys and there's no turning back.

I'm not back tracking
That stuff is good but as a starting point I cant see how you could go wrong with the new Gunslingers. I've not played the CIC version but reviews suggest they are value for money, besides, its new so you will bypass all the hidden risks like worn knife edges on the trem from years of dive bombing, stripped out allen screws on the nut, gunked up floyd etc.
The older Shredders can take days to set up if they've been abused and the odd one can be riddled with problems.

DO IT.

Get some of THESE whilst you are at it and dont report back until its all in a picture in your sig

I can handle setups alright now, and in a sense it'd be nice to get the experience with a Floyd.

Let's say this guy will send this for £20..

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251183661079? ... 1423.l2649

What's the sensible option here out of the two?

Jackson looks a no brainer to me. If it's 80s MIJ and in the gunslinger config I will definitely go for it, but the resale on a new one MIC will be shit.

Looks like the Jackson will be better, a quick google search says only 600 of them were made around 1994 in Japan and they seem popular on the Jackson forum (they can be snobby on there). I'd have a quick read on them and double check its is MIJ with the seller.

Look forward to the 17 page Floyd Rose troubleshoot thread in a weeks time, just kidding

Haha. I don't doubt there will be teething. The info on the concept series is tricky. Lots of misinformation about it eventually turning into the Performance series but some other guy comparing it saying it was closer to the Professional series when put side by side.

By the way, did you even SEE this one Fran...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/170940651081? ... 1423.l2649

I don't know if I should rag my budget more to get it

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Do not post that Kramer anymore! Or I will be forced to buy it...

The Sangria 550 stayed on £205, nice price for someone, guess the silly P&P kept it low (unless a hard case was included?)


Those Gunslingers look fun, never played one though and maybe limiting in tone dept with just one pickup.

Very cool. Fernandes did something similar (another brand worth checking out).
On the subject of budget, this is the thing with these guitars, you can get some seriously good gear for relatively little money.
Never played a Kramer, Vivedeluxe Mike has an old one but he doesn't post much now. The older ones have the credentials of course.

This thread has got me looking again, at a time I'm thinking of selling stuff to fund other interests.

Yeah I saw that 550. Bit gutted I didn't think about putting money down but with postage we'd have been talking upward of £250 probably.

I am seriously looking at what I can sell to afford that Kramer. Can you imagine it doing the rounds in the Shortscale family...

I had a mid to late 80s Kramer Striker 600ST (could have been a Focus 6000, they look the same) Nice guitar sold it for £150 about 8 years ago.