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Post by **Mike** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:38 pm

Not going to happen. Tuners are not DIY fodder.

Post by **Doog** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:39 pm

WITH 8 BLINDING LEDS OF MADNESS!

benecol · Post by **benecol** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:40 pm

I've actually got a schem for one. Please don't make one.

Post by **Mike** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:41 pm

Why would I ever make a tuner? It makes zero sense. It is a false economy.

benecol · Post by **benecol** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:43 pm

Phew.

Haze · Post by **Haze** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:32 pm

i think the box of rock and the box of cake are having a love affair...

NEED BETTER DELAY FUCKKS

James · Post by **James** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:38 pm

Haze wrote:NEED BETTER DELAY FUCKKS

You need this...

[youtube][/youtube]

Haze · Post by **Haze** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:56 pm

that is a pretty sweet delay. been thinking on settling on a DD/RE20
but 225 isn't too bad for a pedal of this sort

Post by **Mike** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:18 am

I would recommend the Echo Box anyday, it's awesome.

nondas · Post by **nondas** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:46 am

James wrote:
Haze wrote:NEED BETTER DELAY FUCKKS
You need this...

[youtube][/youtube]

+1
I have an Echobox. Excellent pedal (except when you get into ~600ms - 800ms delay time and things get a bit fizzy and no tap tap taparoo). The fizz, i think, is due to the chip set.

BUT...

I have recently seen Mike's demo with his Echo Base and imho (even hearing it via the medium of inturdnet) flippin' awesome. It does what the Echobox does (very nice delay + modulation).

Post by **Mike** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:57 am

It is actually very similar to the Echo Base now I look at it more, the guy who designed the Echo Base had a Trails option you could use with a Boss style FET switching arrangement also.

I'm happy with the Echo Base, I dunno how many people will want to take the plunge on it because it's not a cheap build but I'm delighted it came out so well. I've been talking to the designer and he's very graciously given me the OK to sell it to people if they want one, I was willing to pay him a designer's fee but he has asked it be paid to Oxfam instead as a donation for each pedal, which is top-drawer.

Progrockabuse · Post by **Progrockabuse** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:05 am

Mike wrote:It is actually very similar to the Echo Base now I look at it more, the guy who designed the Echo Base had a Trails option you could use with a Boss style FET switching arrangement also.

I'm happy with the Echo Base, I dunno how many people will want to take the plunge on it because it's not a cheap build but I'm delighted it came out so well. I've been talking to the designer and he's very graciously given me the OK to sell it to people if they want one, I was willing to pay him a designer's fee but he has asked it be paid to Oxfam instead as a donation for each pedal, which is top-drawer.

that's really nice of the designer. top way of making a difference and getting credit for the design.

i'm still tempted by an echo base, what's your plans for the lite range of pedals?

Thom · Post by **Thom** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:10 am

Mike wrote:he has asked it be paid to Oxfam instead as a donation for each pedal, which is top-drawer.

Top bloke, that's really good of him. And a great thing to be able to use as part of your marketing.

nondas · Post by **nondas** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:10 am

Mike wrote: I was willing to pay him a designer's fee but he has asked it be paid to Oxfam instead as a donation for each pedal.

Hmm, faith in mankind has increased. Maybe I wont came back from the future as a cyborg and kill everyone. Food for thought.

Post by **Mike** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:16 am

Yep. He's a top guy and was really appreciative of me approaching him for his permission. I would not feel right just building from someone else's original design without their OK.
We had a nice chat, and we're both on the same page. I'm not trying to rip anyone off or get rich, I'm about building pedals for people to make music with and having fun doing it.

He will be creditted with Design on the webpage and the donation will be made clear, I'll also keep a running total of pedals sold and amount donated.

As regards the "Lite" pedals, Rob, I came up with that idea because the Tremolo and Delay are so fully featured it might be too many controls for some, plus they might not want to pay for that extra functionality.

The Saltshaker Tremolo has a lot of controls in it's full form:
Speed, Depth, a Fine Speed control, Ratio (of peaks to troughs) and Shape (Vintage/Modern).
Also it has an internal trim for volume.

The SaltshakerLite has Speed and Depth controls and is internally set to either Vintage or Modern (not adjustable), and you get the volume trimpot.

The Echo Base is a modulated delay with Time, Level, Feedback and Depth & Rate for the modulation.

The Echo Base Lite has no modulation and is a simple DM-2/DM-3 control interface of Time, Level and Feedback

Progrockabuse · Post by **Progrockabuse** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:28 am

hmmm, i'm gonna a have a think. may place an order for a trem.
now you've built a delay, are you planning build more circuits? ie chorus etc.

Post by **Mike** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:31 am

Progrockabuse wrote:hmmm, i'm gonna a have a think. may place an order for a trem.
now you've built a delay, are you planning build more circuits? ie chorus etc.

Chorus is actually more complicated than delay (well it involves pretty much the same complexity), plus I believe the following.

1. There is no Chorus better than the Small Clone.
2. You can buy one for Â£47.
3. People should just do that.

I'm going to build one for myself but that's just because I want to. It will work out more expensive than buying a real one.

Progrockabuse · Post by **Progrockabuse** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:46 am

thats fair really. i tried the small clone at hot rox. he got one out instead of a small stone (fool!). really nice, deep chorus sound for cheaper than a boss version.

at the moment, i've finally got the tweed setup nicely. i've ordered an eminence swamp thang speaker for it, which will dull a little of the highs and give it a little more low and mids. the sd-1 gives me a little more sustain for leads and the phase 90 takes care of swirly thing alerts.

Haze · Post by **Haze** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:29 am

boo-ya
found a place for tim's green muff as i've been doing more fuzz based stuff

still looking for delay options. may hold off for a echo base [lite?]

hotrodperlmutter · Post by **hotrodperlmutter** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:51 am

eh thought you were selling that to me tomorrow guy? AHA! GETTING COMFORTABLE.

FUCKING INDIAN GIVER FUCKER.