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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:18 am
by robroe
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:21 am
by benecol
George wrote:A steel rule like that starts at the edge

They are accurate from that point
Strictly speaking, they're not: because of them wearing down or being damaged on the end, they're thought of as being inaccurate taken from there as a measure. So to be sure, as Rob had pointed out, you'd start measuring from 1 instead, then subtract 1 from the result. Although you'd tend to start from one whole unit, so one whole centimetre or one inch. Not one millimetre like that n00b Pens did. That's why most modern rulers measurements start a few millimetres in.

All that being said, I've got a steel rule that starts right from the end, and it's jolly handy. I check it's undamaged and still calibrated every month. As I do my spirit levels.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:25 am
by Pens
Yeah, there's totally a half mm shaved off the end of my ruler enough to make it 1mm off.

Or it's contextually a bullshit argument in this case. Either or.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:32 am
by benecol
Hence:
benecol wrote:Strictly speaking
But, you're right, it is either/or a contextually bullshit argument. Whatever one of those is.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:21 am
by George
We're talking years of solid misuse to get it to wear down to make it at all inaccurate for this purpose.

And if you'd need it that accurate you should probably have digi calipers anyway.



Can't believe that bass is $5200. what a joke

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:46 am
by jagsonic
Does anyone know something about the JZHB humbucking pickup in the bass VI? It's the same as in the offset special? Does someone have any experiences with this guitar? Photos of the JZHB humbucking pickup backside?
Is it a »normal« humbucker or just a hum-cancelling singlecoil?

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:53 am
by James
George wrote:Can't believe that bass is $5200. what a joke
Being the one model where they didn't make any glaring errors I didn't want to look at the price because I was expecting $1500+. $5200 gives it the comedy value of the rest of the new models.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:02 am
by Thom
George wrote:Can't believe that bass is $5200.
I'm sorry, WHAT?!

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:51 am
by James
Looks like these are starting to hit US stores now. Some more pics.

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3-tone sunburst, Black and CAR lols on the Bass VI.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:52 am
by George
that jazzmaster pickup needs pixelating

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:53 am
by James
On that Orange Sparkle photo you can see the neck heel is the same as the old Squier version.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:54 am
by George
Thom wrote:
George wrote:Can't believe that bass is $5200.
I'm sorry, WHAT?!
it could be a misprint but yeah, fender online catalogue lists it for 5k. UNREAL.

it's no doubt because of the aging.

they could release it new with no relicy bells and whistles and it would be an excellent seller

EDIT: sorry, should probably specify that's for the 50s P Bass, not the bass iv.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:01 pm
by James
One more bit of info from Offset - Sweetwater are selling the Bass VI for $799 shipped.

I imagine if the release news first came out as 'there will be a Bass VI reissue in January, price is $799' it would have been the most exciting Fender news for years. When the photos come first the price can't compensate for the disappointment.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:03 pm
by drew199321
daftsupernova wrote: ITT: BUTTHURT HIPSTERS AND ANTIHIPSTERS ARGUE OVER THE RIDICULOUSNESS OF FUCKING EVERYTHING FENDER DOES AND THE CRITICISMS OF THOSE THINGS FENDER DOES
I laughed a little harder than I should've :lol:

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:03 pm
by Awstin
Only need 400 more dollars! Haha

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:09 pm
by Thom
George wrote:
Thom wrote:
George wrote:Can't believe that bass is $5200.
I'm sorry, WHAT?!
it could be a misprint but yeah, fender online catalogue lists it for 5k. UNREAL.

it's no doubt because of the aging.

they could release it new with no relicy bells and whistles and it would be an excellent seller

EDIT: sorry, should probably specify that's for the 50s P Bass, not the bass iv.
Yeah knew you meant the p bass, even so....damn....

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:48 pm
by Ankhanu
benecol wrote:
George wrote:A steel rule like that starts at the edge

They are accurate from that point
Strictly speaking, they're not: because of them wearing down or being damaged on the end, they're thought of as being inaccurate taken from there as a measure. So to be sure, as Rob had pointed out, you'd start measuring from 1 instead, then subtract 1 from the result. Although you'd tend to start from one whole unit, so one whole centimetre or one inch. Not one millimetre like that n00b Pens did. That's why most modern rulers measurements start a few millimetres in.

All that being said, I've got a steel rule that starts right from the end, and it's jolly handy. I check it's undamaged and still calibrated every month. As I do my spirit levels.
Actually, you don't start from any given line, you place down the rule, take the measure of the first, take the last and subtract. Starting from a line(or attempting to) biases your measure.
Take a few university engineering/physics courses and see how far you'll get starting froma whole number measure before the lab prof cusses you out for it!

That said, given e nature of these measures, it's kind of a moot point.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:57 pm
by Mike
The orange supersonic looks actually beautiful in those photos

I'll have a play when they hit Brizzle

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:02 pm
by benecol
Ankhanu wrote:Actually, you don't start from any given line, you place down the rule, take the measure of the first, take the last and subtract. Starting from a line(or attempting to) biases your measure.
I am aware that you can start from any point and subtract that from your measurement, but since the whole numbers are marked more clearly, it makes for a more accurate measurement. I went to an old fashioned grammar school dear boy; do you not think we had stuff like this drummed into us?

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:50 pm
by Bacchus
I don't give a shit which line you should start from, or whether you've digital calipers, or how may guitars you own. If rob says it's 42mm I'm believing it's 42mm. If rob says my Jag-stang has a maple fretboard, it probably does. He knows more about shortscale necks than anyone else.