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I wonder how people play their tube amps in flats. Even 5 watt amps are fucking loud. My 10 watt Laney makes windows, floor and walls rattle. Neighbours are going to kill me next time I play it.

I can bug my neighbors worse with my Vibro Champ XD (5 watt, 8" speaker combo) than I can with my Marshalls (100-watt head, closed-back 4x12) because the Marshalls make a low rumbly noise somewhere in the distance whereas the Fender makes for a more shrill "hey fellas check it out: Pipeline" sort of vibe bleeding through the walls on all 4 sides of the combo... so I'm inclined to say the next-door audibility of your "bedroom volume" depends more on the type of cabinet/reflex/directional sound and the voicing of the amp than the wattage or speaker size itself. If you're playing at home you're probably aiming for the same maximum decibel level with each, but a smaller amp will not produce as wide a frequency range and you tend to push it's snottier qualities a bit harder. Similarly, a bigger amp with bigger speakers can be played at a lower decibel level while giving a more satisfying and full sound.
Also it's a hardwood floor and the Marshall is on plastic casters while the Fender is on those little metal discs. A lot of people remove speaker cabinet casters just for the in-room/onstage difference.

That's the reason I rent a house, though it still bleeds through

this is why I love living in a shitty neighborhood. no one gives a shit about noise. if motherfuckers can scream and fight all night then I can play some loud music during the day.

paul_ wrote:I can bug my neighbors worse with my Vibro Champ XD (5 watt, 8" speaker combo) than I can with my Marshalls (100-watt head, closed-back 4x12)

OBVIOUS POOR PHRASING ALERT: clearly I meant "tend to" rather than "can". I COULD piss off the neighbors a lot worse with the plexi stacks, to be fair.

Josh wrote:this is why I love living in a shitty neighborhood. no one gives a shit about noise. if motherfuckers can scream and fight all night then I can play some loud music during the day.

Ditto, although getting mugged just outside your flat kind of sucks.

Gabriel wrote:

Josh wrote:this is why I love living in a shitty neighborhood. no one gives a shit about noise. if motherfuckers can scream and fight all night then I can play some loud music during the day.

Ditto, although getting mugged just outside your flat kind of sucks.

You got mugged in Glasgow?

Josh wrote:this is why I love living in a shitty neighborhood. no one gives a shit about noise. if motherfuckers can scream and fight all night then I can play some loud music during the day.

I used to live in a shitty neighborhood and each time I strum the guitar it seemed to me that all the neighbors around were trying to calculate how much my belongins cost

Nick-oh-Nick...Gorgeous stuff!

Would so love to have an Offset in the studio plus a 2x10 cabinet with a pair of G10s. [/mad-drooling]

ultratwin wrote:Nick-oh-Nick...Gorgeous stuff!

Would so love to have an Offset in the studio plus a 2x10 cabinet with a pair of G10s. [/mad-drooling]

The 1x10 cab it came with sounds good, I wonder what it would sound like with 2...

Edwards les paul, 70's deluxe mini hums > tuner > wah probe > byoc shredmaster > psionic audio triad > boss dd20 > fender deluxe 85

A few notes, I can't seem to figure out how to get the fx loop on the triad to work, this is a very weird pedal with little documentation available. I also forgot how loud the deluxe 85 is, ringing ears are great.



Hnb's awesome graphics on the byoc...

Started working on demos for new Autonomous Waves songs for February today;

ultratwin wrote:Nick-oh-Nick...Gorgeous stuff!

Would so love to have an Offset in the studio plus a 2x10 cabinet with a pair of G10s. [/mad-drooling]

Yeah, just chiming in to say I love the looks of that amp too... And I rarely play Marshalls.

Research time!

singlepickup24 wrote:

ultratwin wrote:Nick-oh-Nick...Gorgeous stuff!

Would so love to have an Offset in the studio plus a 2x10 cabinet with a pair of G10s. [/mad-drooling]

Yeah, just chiming in to say I love the looks of that amp too... And I rarely play Marshalls.

Research time!

Broadly its the JTM-1 that they did for their annivesary year, but with different cosmetics and a 1x10 cab. They were quite expensive when they first came out, but I managed to get a decent chunk of money knocked off so it was still spendy, but justifiable.

I use it a lot, with the lower setting it gets down to bedroom volumes while still running the power valves pretty hard, but the full 1 watt is a lot louder than you would imagine, it would keep up with a drummer that wasn't playing really hard.

sunshiner wrote:I wonder how people play their tube amps in flats. Even 5 watt amps are fucking loud. My 10 watt Laney makes windows, floor and walls rattle. Neighbours are going to kill me next time I play it.

now and again I'll play my bassman in the apt, but usually only in the mid afternoon when I know the folks upstairs are out.
the cats i share a wall with are pretty cool about it, we've a deal about noise, as in we talk to each other instead of calling the landlord and getting a $50 fine

usually I play an old `58 Fonovox 1st gen solidstate, only 5amp out of it, but i loaned it to a buddy to use while he finishes workign on an album, gets hella gnar tones out of it with his baritone.

Freethenoise wrote:Started working on demos for new Autonomous Waves songs for February today;

Must say the Hiwatt and the Tele look the business...

my setups don't change a whole lot. though I do swap cabs from what is in the pictures

Solo Setup

Fender Hellcat into '68 Bassman 50
depending upon the gig sometimes i'll play my Gibson Es-339 instead, or just use a DI
cab usually used is a Traynor 2x12 (as opposed to the Vox 4x12 pictured)

Working Caste Setup(s)
a: Guitar Recording

`65 Mustang into `68 Bassman 50
Vox 4x12 for cab, sometimes the Traynor 2x12 depending upon tone i'm after
Pedals MBM Distortion 2 & Boss Chorus CE-3

b: Guitar Live

`72 Harmony Les Paul Clone, w/ 70s Dimarzio super distortions into Sovtek Tube Midget-50H
usually use a Traynor 4x10 Bass Cab
Pedal Dwarfcraft Eau Clair Thunder

c: Bass Live/Recording

`09 Gibson SG Bass (aka EB-3 reissue) into Sovtek Tube Midget-50H
Traynor 4x10 Bass Cab
Pedal Dwarfcraft Shiva

aside; setup for guiar/bass is the same due to switching duties when playing live, only need to swap the instrument and pedal, aka plug in a different chord, use channel 1 for guitar, 2 for bass.


Serf X Bass

Squier VM Jag Bass SS into `68 Bassman
Traynor 4x10 Bass Cab
Pedals Dwarfcraft DIY The Great Destroyer, EHX Small Clone, Behringer DD600 Delay

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go to setups. obviously sometimes guitars are swapped out for others, in the apt its the same cept i always run into the 2x12 with vol/gain set as low as possible, or just play the acoustic, or play rocksmith on the xbox, but that is usaully just for running through techniques these days.
(Ie, my jag instead of the les paul, or different stuff when recording)

Basses and the harmony les Paul look the bomb...

dezb1 wrote: Must say the Hiwatt and the Tele look the business...

It's pretty fucking spanky if I do say so myself.