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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 2:34 pm
by robert(original)
fuck that, you want the secret to cutting out a solid body.
use your teeth and not your tits
say it with me,
teeth not tits.
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:25 am
by eupat
received today the tuning keys
for sure I'll need conversion bushings :

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 8:44 pm
by eupat
the neck pocket is done, it's very tight.
now I'm waiting for the neck plate to go further
when the body and the neck will be screwed, I'll make sure the body's centerline matches the neck's centerline.

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:06 pm
by Justin J
how is the quality on those kluson reissues?
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:02 am
by eupat
they look fine, mine are the double line ones.
we will see when they will be on the neck, but I'm waiting for the conversion bushings.
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 6:54 pm
by Hurb
The reissue klusons are great tuners.
Good work so far eupat ! did you cut that neck pocket with chisels ? rawk!!
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 6:55 pm
by Hurb
oh just noticed there files

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:05 pm
by eupat
no I used a router for the pocket, and chisel to adjust it perfectly with the neck.
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:18 pm
by eupat
I'm about to order the pups, and i'm not sure wich option should I take to stay in the Wide Range idea:
1 - try those
cheapos GFS but they don't have the size and/or the sound (even if from what I read they sound good)
2 - pay 200$ for the
guenine Fender WRRI but I know they don't sound like '72 ones (they can be modified by Curtis Novak) and the neck pickup is out of stock
what do you think?
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:26 pm
by Justin J
i'd say go for the GFS for now, and if you don't like them, then change 'em for the real thing. they are essentially the same thing. unless you plan on having curtis novak bring them up to vintage specs. it just seems like way too much money to spend on pickups, though. do you know how much novak charges?
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:57 pm
by eupat
going for the GFS seems to be the wiser decision.
Chris Novak told me "I am planning to offer a mod to convert the RI's back to the original ones. I am in the final stages, just waiting of some final testing."
I don't know for the money, but for me in France, it sure will be too expensive !!
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:35 am
by iCEByTes
its 5 bucks less on warmoth
http://www.warmoth.com/pickups/pickups. ... ups_fender
why in hell fender do that unoriginal copy is so expensive and in fact that thing dont sounds like an 1972 original one ... i played on store an 1972 mex tele copy and i hear somme indie bands have original 1972 one and i can tell that thing dont sounds samme
if novak can make sounds like , good !
but 99 / 95 bucks for an non original ressuie is an fucking grosse joke
seymour duncan and dimarzio shoud kick fenders ass and release an Wide range copys .... just for make competion
like Seymour Duncan Wide Duncan or Dimarzio Wide Hell
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:09 pm
by eupat
I tried to order the Musicmaster bridge from Guitar Parts Resources,
but they only accept Paypal, and I don't have a Paypal account.
so I create one, but it will takes at least 4 business day to have the Expanded Use Number
so the bridge isn't near to be here !!
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:13 pm
by euan
For once Icey shut up. To make exact copies of the original WR pickups it would cost in excess of $200 each. The RI do a good job of sounding close considering they are not made of the same materials.
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:08 pm
by iCEByTes
euan wrote:For once Icey shut up. To make exact copies of the original WR pickups it would cost in excess of $200 each. The RI do a good job of sounding close considering they are not made of the same materials.
bullshit
duncan do 1959 and dimarzio do pafs
they are 95% copy of an Original 195x Paf's
Even Lindy Fraly do copys too
and its custs 200 bucks ??? no way
the RI Wide Rangers dont use samme Magnets dont use samme round and dont use samme wire .... those shittys are expensive and lamme
For your information :
Just Comparation :
Impedance : k , 11kΏ (original), 8kΏ (reissue)
Magnets : CuNiFe(original) Alnico(reissue)
6800 turns Originals each bobin and about 7200 turns the Ressuie
also
wikipedia
The 1998 re-issued pickup, despite an almost identical appearance, is constructed differently from the original 1970s unit. Like a Gibson humbucker it features a bar magnet underneath the bobbins that abut to 6 screw type pole-pieces in each coil; the 1998 Wide Range is in fact an ordinary humbucker placed in a larger casing, and the gap is filled with wax. This is one important reason the re-issue sounds very different from the original pickup.
the True !!!
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:19 pm
by euan
Fucking idiot sometimes Icey. Those PAFs and 59s are affordable copies of those pickups. However CuNiFe is not a cheap material or one that is easy to manufacture. Hence why a real WR reissue would be expensive in the $200 region if not more. Novak mod will not turn you WR reissue into a 70s WR.
Again the RI sound close to the originals. This is my experience from being at gigs where both reissues and original Tele Customs and Deluxes were being used. The both have been very popular guitars in the Glasgow indie scene. The pickups sound similar, I know this from standing 15 feet away from the amp.
A good pickup is a good pickup.
Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 1:50 am
by paul_
iCEByTes wrote:
i played on store an 1972 mex tele copy and i hear somme indie bands have original 1972 one and i can tell that thing dont sounds samme
mystery of the fucking millenium, right here.
Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 2:09 am
by jcyphe
every original Telecaster Custom or Deluxe I have played has sucked, they're heavy, the pickups are not all that. I really have never seen so much to do about nothing. I think part of the whole Wide Range craze is simply that people can't get the original specs, so they feel like they're missing something grand, they ain't. Fender didn't make great guitars in the mid to late 70's neither did Gibson. Nostalgia for guitars of that period is baffling.
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 1:02 pm
by eupat
so, I've changed a little bit my project
in fact for now i've found cheap MIJ jazzmaster pups
receive them today by mail :
so it will be a Jazzmaster with a Musicmaster bridge, and without the rythm circuit
it will give me more time to find good pups to hide under the jazzmaster covers.
the body will be routed for eventually putting WideRanges
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:50 pm
by eupat
good news today !!
got from a guy on a french forum :

everything is mint/aged

it looks very nice, thanks a lot Nicolas.
and from Guitar Parts Resources :

it's supposed to be a Musicmaster bridge so a top loader, but in fact it's a string through
so I change my project, it will be string through, and i'm ordering some body ferrules.