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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 4:44 pm
by Hurb
well fuckin hell...i might try the pickup in my black jazz rick..just for shits and giggles.

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:20 am
by Rikki
theshadowofseattle wrote:HOW ABOUT ALL OF YOU FUCKING MORONS SHUT THE HELL UP

RIKKI YOU SHOULD TAKE A TELECASTER PICKUP, DRILL THREE HOLES IN A JAZZMASTER PICKUP COVER, SCREW THE TELE PICKUP IN, AND BAM! IT'LL LOOK AWESOME AND COST NEXT TO NIL

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I'm not doing that because I would spend the same amount of money on a hand wound tele pickup, and end up with something that looks crappy in my new jazzy, so why not let the professional do it especially when he offered me a sweet deal, fair nuff?

MIKE: I tried a jazzy didn't like the bridge pickup, I thik theres nothing wrong with me making the descision that it needs to be replaced before I have it in my hands as I allready know what it sounds like.

You keep making up this point about me just listening to what everyone else says, for fucks sake I played one and it wasn't what I wanted, but the rest of the guitar was great, so can't we just move on from that fact, your calling me stupid but your not even reading what I have typed.

/rant

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 1:08 pm
by More Cowbell
jcyphe wrote:
Mike wrote:
Rikki wrote:so I just made payment for a jazzmaster tele bridge, and a jm vintage neck, should be mega fun times when they get here

I love my credit card, yet loath it at the same time
You haven't even heard the stock pickups.
The stock pickups ain't nothing great anyways. He's not missing out.
+1
They lack sustain, they lack bass, He made the right decision. Plus his is a MIJ right? if so, then they are nothing more than strat pups anyway. Besides, if he decides he likes his stock jazzy pup's better, then he'll have no problem what so ever selling novak pup's on ebay and getting his money back.

in other news...Novak emailed me today and said he was shipping mine out today!

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 3:26 pm
by dots
Rikki wrote:
theshadowofseattle wrote:HOW ABOUT ALL OF YOU FUCKING MORONS SHUT THE HELL UP

RIKKI YOU SHOULD TAKE A TELECASTER PICKUP, DRILL THREE HOLES IN A JAZZMASTER PICKUP COVER, SCREW THE TELE PICKUP IN, AND BAM! IT'LL LOOK AWESOME AND COST NEXT TO NIL

END OF THREAD

I'm not doing that because I would spend the same amount of money on a hand wound tele pickup, and end up with something that looks crappy in my new jazzy, so why not let the professional do it especially when he offered me a sweet deal, fair nuff?

MIKE: I tried a jazzy didn't like the bridge pickup, I thik theres nothing wrong with me making the descision that it needs to be replaced before I have it in my hands as I allready know what it sounds like.

You keep making up this point about me just listening to what everyone else says, for fucks sake I played one and it wasn't what I wanted, but the rest of the guitar was great, so can't we just move on from that fact, your calling me stupid but your not even reading what I have typed.

/rant
i did a pretty similar thing with the hh jag. i tried one out at a guitar center (amazing that they even had one) and though the guitar felt and looked amazing, i was completely underwhelmed by the tones the stock pups put out. the bass was squishy, the highs were brittle, and the mids were almost non-existent. you'd think a mid-output pickup would have a more well-rounded sound, but meh. anyhoo, i ordered the gfs p90's within days of getting my jag, after really only playing it once. maybe those dragsters will sound good in some other setup, but they were not my thing at all.

don't sweat it, rikki. everybody's got their own tastes here. mike was really only trying to understand your thinking on the matter, but it got kinda clouded with all the "no he di'nt" comments on all sides. dude's bark is way worse than his bite, and he can actually be quite helpful. just cos he (or anybody else) thinks his/their opinions or scripture, doesn't mean they are. cheers.

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:58 pm
by Mike
dots pretty much said it like it was.

I was more amused by the fact everyone got so excited than anything. I do have a massive problem with people using internet lore as tr00th without experience though. The amount of shite written about gear on the internet is ridiculous.

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:06 pm
by theshadowofseattle
Mike wrote:The amount of shite written about gear on the internet is ridiculous.
robert(orignal), amirite?

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:17 pm
by dots
theshadowofseattle wrote:
Mike wrote:The amount of shite written about gear on the internet is ridiculous.
robert(orignal), amirite?
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:10 pm
by Rikki
Well my jazzmaster got here this morning, a full 3 days before expected and with no letters telling customs was holding onto it till I paid them , so I'm stoked, and its everything I expected haha.

My mates one had a buzzstop and I really liked the feel of that, then again this has the crappy standard strings on it so I will get heavier strings and give it a good setup before I spend coin on the buzzstop.

Does anyone know if the tele deluxe and custom pickups differ in any way at all, coz I played a deluxe in a store and it was great, by custom hummer is pretty muddy.

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:30 pm
by euan
They should be exactly the same.

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:04 pm
by Rikki
euan wrote:They should be exactly the same.
thats what I figured, I think I only played the deluxe in the middle position, the custom sounds average in the bridge position aswell, I have a new bridge pickup on its way with an ibanez ts808 from japan, yay ishibashi

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:07 pm
by euan
The neck pickup of my Custom is certainly dark, but there is a lot of meat to it too. I like it with the tone rolled of slightly.

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 8:16 am
by Mike
They're the same but you should be able to get more treble out of the Custom/Deluxe neck pickup by raising to towards the strings, it really starts to sparkle then.

I've actually been using the neck pickup on my Deluxe (and the combination of both) a lot more since rejigging the scratchplates and setting the pickup height higher.

The pickup model is identical though

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 9:00 am
by Rikki
Mike wrote:They're the same but you should be able to get more treble out of the Custom/Deluxe neck pickup by raising to towards the strings, it really starts to sparkle then.

I've actually been using the neck pickup on my Deluxe (and the combination of both) a lot more since rejigging the scratchplates and setting the pickup height higher.

The pickup model is identical though
I shall try that, I also have a new bridge pickup coming cause the ones thats in there is pretty weak, the gat sounds way good clean through my compressor, but clean without is not as good

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:31 am
by Mike
Try a 1 MEG pot too.

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:12 am
by euan
Mike wrote:Try a 1 MEG pot too.
I forgot to do this on the Wideranger in my Tele when I changed the string last week or so. I might do it this weekend actually, cos Rotosounds don't seem to be suiting it as well as my other guitars.

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:34 pm
by Mike
I'll probably give it a go at some point but it'll be a real pain. Four pots in close proximity with lots of connections. I'll need my digital camera to take shots to work from as I can't be arsed with diagrams. Joanna is coming home with it tomorrow.

Where's best to get good pots in the UK online? Do you think we need to replace both the Vols and the tones?

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:42 pm
by euan
I think you have to replace both with 1M. Or at least that is what I read the origingal Tele Customs and Deluxes had for both tone and volume

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:44 pm
by Mike
Fair enough. I'll do it at some point, it'll be fucking painful though.

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:57 pm
by More Cowbell
Do 1 Meg linear for Volume, and Audio pot for tone.

I HATE YOU MIKE!

just kidding!

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:59 pm
by euan
Please say you are kidding as well about the 1Meg linear for volume?????