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magic.
thats why vintage fenders are better, they usec magic o make them, thus increasing the mojo arrows in the guitar itself.

finboy wrote:how well do the bronco tailpieces stay in tune?

mine stays in tune very well. but the design won't allow for any really wild trem usage. you won't be divebombing on it.

bubbles_horwitz wrote:

finboy wrote:how well do the bronco tailpieces stay in tune?

mine stays in tune very well. but the design won't allow for any really wild trem usage. you won't be divebombing on it.

I have no tuning issues with a bronco trem.

i love my jazzys trem, i am getting into using it for MVB strummings style stuff lately, but i do use it to accent certains notes quite often. It holds it tuning very, very well when it's properally set up. i just dove back into the trem last week and tightened the collet because it was too loose, and floppy trem arms FTL.

all other trems = FAIL

but i've never played a bronco

on strats, 5 springs, 13 gauge strings, whammy like SRV
on Floyds, Whammy like Dime
on anything else its just subtle stuff

OH! and on Acoustics i do EPIC NECK BENDING
lol its fun

i know i have seen an acoustic before with a trem on it.
gretsch had one with a bigsby(dreadnaught)
and i remember seeing an episode of full house where that rocker guy has a(no lie) bc rich acoustic with what i can remember, looks like a blacked out strat trem. i think it even had the nasty headstock, but my memory could be failing me.

Jazzmaster trem is heaven till the e-string breaks. I locked the stang.
I have to try a bronco now with all this raving.

I like to trem with 5 springs on strats. If it has 3 it usually goes out of tune.

robert(original) wrote:i know i have seen an acoustic before with a trem on it.
gretsch had one with a bigsby(dreadnaught)
and i remember seeing an episode of full house where that rocker guy has a(no lie) bc rich acoustic with what i can remember, looks like a blacked out strat trem. i think it even had the nasty headstock, but my memory could be failing me.

acoustic trem ftw

I've never used any tremolo for anything serious. I lock them down if they are there, I'd love to have a string through body Fender one day. I think I tried reading tabliture for Possum Kingdom once and doing it, it was a disaster.

I use the whammy bars on my jag and strat, 'cause you're supposed to.

matt69vdub wrote:I like to trem with 5 springs on strats. If it has 3 it usually goes out of tune.

In my experience it's easier to get something that stays in tune AND is easy to use with 3 springs, set straight.
The number of springs has no bearing on the tuning unless you just pop springs in with no regard to the rest of the set-up anyway.

Bigsby B5! everything else is too fast.

paul_ wrote:

matt69vdub wrote:I like to trem with 5 springs on strats. If it has 3 it usually goes out of tune.

In my experience it's easier to get something that stays in tune AND is easy to use with 3 springs, set straight.
The number of springs has no bearing on the tuning unless you just pop springs in with no regard to the rest of the set-up anyway.

So your saying that a higher quality of instrument will keep tune better with just the 3 springs? Most of my strats have been squiers or mim.

I've done the 5 string thing on American/Mexican/Korean. On the American it had locking tuners was very reliable. It's been so long since I had an American Strat with regular tuners I don't really know, I used 3 springs on it and it came out of tune all the damn time, but that was during my extremely heavy playing days.

My Stratocaster has a Hipshot Tremsetter installed, also an LSR ball-bearing nut and locking tuners. So mine's two springs plus the Tremsetter.



I really wish the tuners were available in chrome rather than this "brushed" finish, but they do keep the trem in tune. The fretted note(s) stay in tune when you do double-stop bends too. Without the Tremsetter, they'd get pulled flat as the string-bending pulls the bridge down a little.

I dont do much trem action, but when I have my jazzmaster, I liked to use the trem on feedback and stuff.

matt69vdub wrote:

paul_ wrote:

matt69vdub wrote:I like to trem with 5 springs on strats. If it has 3 it usually goes out of tune.

In my experience it's easier to get something that stays in tune AND is easy to use with 3 springs, set straight.
The number of springs has no bearing on the tuning unless you just pop springs in with no regard to the rest of the set-up anyway.

So your saying that a higher quality of instrument will keep tune better with just the 3 springs? Most of my strats have been squiers or mim.

I didn't mean to remark on the quality of whatever guitar it's being done to, I just mean that popping 5 springs in works well because it's so much tension that it's a step away from blocking off the trem... you can still use the trem but it becomes a bit more work. I think that 3 springs set vertically in the assembly with the trem plate set flush against the body can be very stable with some personal fine tuning.

If you like having 5 springs it's cool, I used to do that but once I got it working with three I could never go back because the bar was so much easier to use. It definately takes more fidgeting around when you set it up with 3 though.

Justin wrote:I used 3 springs on it and it came out of tune all the damn time, but that was during my extremely heavy playing days.

I use three springs and I probably play as heavy as anybody.

Three, springs, and only two screws. Take out all but the outer most two screws, so that the bridge is resting on only two points.