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INtense is definitely the word for it. I actually have worn out the tip of my original iron doing this build. It started to eat itself.
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woah. did the tip get all black and stuff?

are you usin RA solder or RMA solder?
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Cool. With mine, I think I just let the wires hold the circuit board in place. The wires were stiff & plentiful enough, the board small & light enough, and it didn't seem to be in danger of shorting against anything. I put a couple small slabs of corrugated cardboard on opposite sides of the battery (or was it on one side?) and these "crushed" just enough to hold the battery in place when I screwed the box closed. I bought standoffs, but couldn't be bothered to install them. I guess you'd have to glue them in, unless you want screw heads on the front of the box.

You're gonna love that pedal once it's done. I'm really curious about that 6-way control.
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about the flux-

when building the superfuzzes, i was going through tips like mad with the new lead free solder. wtf man, i didnt know why.

so i tried RMA (resin mild activated flux) solder instead of RA (resin activated) and it was better, but the tips still got eaten up.

so i tired no clean flux solder (2.5% flux) and it is way better. the tips dont get eaten up and it solders great.

i dont know why, but it seems like the regular RA and RMA flux was just eating those tips up.

i got some tip cleaner and tinner from radioshack, and the cleaner is acid based, so that ate up tips too.

try no clean solder and see if that helps.
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mewithoutus wrote:about the flux-

when building the superfuzzes, i was going through tips like mad with the new lead free solder. wtf man, i didnt know why.

so i tried RMA (resin mild activated flux) solder instead of RA (resin activated) and it was better, but the tips still got eaten up.

so i tired no clean flux solder (2.5% flux) and it is way better. the tips dont get eaten up and it solders great.

i dont know why, but it seems like the regular RA and RMA flux was just eating those tips up.

i got some tip cleaner and tinner from radioshack, and the cleaner is acid based, so that ate up tips too.

try no clean solder and see if that helps.
This is why I buy cheap ass irons, cause when the tip is done, I'm not that mad...
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sorry but thats a terrible reason to buy a cheap iron. tips can be replaced and knowing how to solder correctly will contribute to your tips life.

before switching to lead free solder, the tip i used in my soldering iron was in there for abot 3 years and it was still perfectly good before i switched it out to a lead free tip.

and when it comes to soldering, the difference between a crappy iron and a good iron is HUGE.
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I HATE THOSE KIND OF POTS! Ugh, I always got these ones with little loops on the lugs so all you had to do was fold the wires over and solder. NOw I have like 200 of those "3 stabber" pots and my shit is ALL KINDS of fucked up.
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mewithoutus wrote:sorry but thats a terrible reason to buy a cheap iron. tips can be replaced and knowing how to solder correctly will contribute to your tips life.

before switching to lead free solder, the tip i used in my soldering iron was in there for abot 3 years and it was still perfectly good before i switched it out to a lead free tip.

and when it comes to soldering, the difference between a crappy iron and a good iron is HUGE.
I tried to replace a tip once, but I assume that the heat changed it so that the replacement tip couldn't fit at all...
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Mike that is very great, cant wait for mine to look that way.
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aen wrote:I HATE THOSE KIND OF POTS! Ugh, I always got these ones with little loops on the lugs so all you had to do was fold the wires over and solder. NOw I have like 200 of those "3 stabber" pots and my shit is ALL KINDS of fucked up.
Eh? They have a hole you insert the wire into from below and solder at the top to the ring contact.
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The PCB pots are a bit annoying, the tag ones are a lot easier to work it. But there is a knack. The tag ones do make me feel better about strain though.
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Mike wrote:
aen wrote:I HATE THOSE KIND OF POTS! Ugh, I always got these ones with little loops on the lugs so all you had to do was fold the wires over and solder. NOw I have like 200 of those "3 stabber" pots and my shit is ALL KINDS of fucked up.
Eh? They have a hole you insert the wire into from below and solder at the top to the ring contact.
ohaha. I did that onnce, but my shit grounded out on the case, I guess I never tried again.
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aen wrote:
Mike wrote:
aen wrote:I HATE THOSE KIND OF POTS! Ugh, I always got these ones with little loops on the lugs so all you had to do was fold the wires over and solder. NOw I have like 200 of those "3 stabber" pots and my shit is ALL KINDS of fucked up.
Eh? They have a hole you insert the wire into from below and solder at the top to the ring contact.
ohaha. I did that onnce, but my shit grounded out on the case, I guess I never tried again.
This is also why I dont do that. There is very little clearance and the solder goes through the otheside.
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aen wrote:
Mike wrote:
aen wrote:I HATE THOSE KIND OF POTS! Ugh, I always got these ones with little loops on the lugs so all you had to do was fold the wires over and solder. NOw I have like 200 of those "3 stabber" pots and my shit is ALL KINDS of fucked up.
Eh? They have a hole you insert the wire into from below and solder at the top to the ring contact.
ohaha. I did that onnce, but my shit grounded out on the case, I guess I never tried again.
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my god, that looks immense. this is so far beyond my skills. cheers, mike!
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Schematic reverse engineered from the PCB layout diagrams for help with debug. Also contacted OLC and they said I will need the missing J201s and they are sending them out. Will stall major debug until they arrive.
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What did you have in there, if you don't have the J201s?
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7 MPF102s, it doesn't work at the moment.
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Can I be nosey and ask to see a current pic?
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Mike wrote:Schematic reverse engineered from the PCB layout diagrams for help with debug.
Wow, nice work. With something that complex, it's got to be aggravating looking for a bug.