I think that Johnny Marr gave a gibson to Bernard Butler, so it might be the same guitar...
Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 3:05 am
by Will
You could totally cop the same vibe with a modified Epiphone - just check the neck before you buy. They've been better lately, but sometimes you'll find one with an almost unplayable baseball bat neck.
And you'll want replacement PUPs - Classic 57s from Gibson would get the sound from that Suede video and they're on the bright end for humbuckers. Epiphone's are a little too muddy. Most people take the 57s out of their Gibbys to put in high gain or wolftone BS, so I'd think you could find a used set on eBay.
Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 3:06 am
by jcyphe
suede wrote:I think that Johnny Marr gave a gibson to Bernard Butler, so it might be the same guitar...
neat
Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 3:11 am
by jcyphe
Just get the damn Gibson if you want it. We're not monks, why deny yourself. Also the whole Gibson QC thing is so overblown, especially at that price point.
besides some late 90's ones, I mostly hate hollowbodies Epi's they feel so cheap. I think they make the new ones in China too and they're even worse.
Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 6:16 am
by Mages
I had one of those epiphone les paul specials and the pickups were waist deep in mud. but I have one of these made in china dots and the pickups are wayyy better. they're alnico II. I like them a lot. I may have to look into those classic 57s, his tone sounded pretty bright in that video.
Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 6:24 am
by Ninja Mike 808
jcyphe wrote:Just get the damn Gibson if you want it. We're not monks, why deny yourself. Also the whole Gibson QC thing is so overblown, especially at that price point.
besides some late 90's ones, I mostly hate hollowbodies Epi's they feel so cheap. I think they make the new ones in China too and they're even worse.
j-j-j-jea
Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 5:08 pm
by Progrockabuse
i think i've found what i'm looking for at a more realistic price band (for now lol). the only snag is that it's been disconutined so it's trawling ebay for one.
i fucking love this so much.
Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 5:36 pm
by Fran
suede wrote:I think that Johnny Marr gave a gibson to Bernard Butler, so it might be the same guitar...
He gave Noel Gallagher a vintage Les Paul but i've never heard of that. Butler is a distinct player, the sound is more his rather than a result of the guitar. Give Bernard a Strat and he wont sound much different.
Epiphone Sheratons are great guitars but i guess you want the bigsby.
There are other quality brands to look for such as Guild, old Aria Pro's etc. if you put a search in for 'bigsby semi accoustic' i bet it throws allsorts up.
Progrockabuse wrote:i think i've found what i'm looking for at a more realistic price band (for now lol). the only snag is that it's been disconutined so it's trawling ebay for one.
i fucking love this so much.
Could always buy the guitar & fit a Bigsby yourself.
Gretsch do some nice semis for under a grand these days.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 10:50 am
by Richard
Johno wrote:Gretsch do some nice semis for under a grand these days.
+1, Ibanez Artcores are pretty nice for their price too, Mr Mustache has one that I quite like.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:37 am
by Progrockabuse
i found a tokai 335 clone on fleabay, circa 1982. thinking of getting that, then adding the varitone and bigsby. really want to find one with the custom gibson headstock and block inlays, though i could do them myself.
I would have mentioned this to y'all, but I was a whisker away from getting it myself. Look of for more of thems.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 12:33 pm
by vivadeluxxe
Progrockabuse wrote:i found a tokai 335 clone on fleabay, circa 1982. thinking of getting that, then adding the varitone and bigsby. really want to find one with the custom gibson headstock and block inlays, though i could do them myself.
A friend of mine has a Tokai 335, it's really nice... As well as being cheaper, at lot of them are apparently better made than teh Gibsons...
Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 12:41 pm
by Progrockabuse
that greco is well sexy. the lead singer in the band i'm in plays a tokai it's so like a gibson it's scary.
is there anywhere good in london i could get one from, ie in denmark street etc?
Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 12:43 pm
by timhulio
You may find a decent lawsuit-era 335 in Denmark St, but I seriously reckon they'd want £600-£700 at least for something like that Greco.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 12:45 pm
by Progrockabuse
would really like to try one before i take the plunge, get a real nice playing one.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 12:53 pm
by timhulio
You want to stick your big toe in, then take the plunge? Screw that! JUST TAKE THE PLUNGE!!
Seriously, I know what you mean, get a nice one even if you pay a bit over the odds.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 1:18 pm
by Progrockabuse
yeah, i dont wanna getting one and it not be right. i do have a 150 quid westfield, which for the money is really good, but i wanna up the bracket a bit. i need block inlays lol and bigsbys!!!
Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 5:01 pm
by light rail coyote
Buy a sheraton. I got an old 90's one for 465 yesterday and It plays just as good as any gibson, just has a thinner neck, and fancy binding and blocks and stuff.
If I was going to get a gibson I'd get a 347 cause they're way cooler looking and have fancier electronics.