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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:07 am
by jcyphe
Sublimedo wrote:robroe wrote:fender isn't exactly well known for thier humbuckers and guitars with humbuckers in them.
out of all my fenders and squiers I own the one that sounds best with humbuckers is my epiphone. haha
Word, but actually my MIM Toronado with humbuckes sounds fucking good. Its like a gibson fender. or Gibson without the boring.
IMO, The pickups in that guitar suck. It doesn't sound anything like a Gibson to me, even with the wannabe scale. At best it maybe sounds like a really shitty SG. It doesn't do any of the good things a great LP or Sg does, at all.
I always thought that if Fender made the Toronado 25.5, used some Wide Rangers and had 3 way jag switch/plate, then it would be a really smoking guitar, It would be something totally Fender but different.
Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 2:42 am
by Aeon
Novak is currently working on making accurate Widerange pickups, so we may be seeing them before the end of the year.
That Jag + WR = awesome
Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 2:57 am
by jcyphe
Aeon wrote:Novak is currently working on making accurate Widerange pickups, so we may be seeing them before the end of the year.
That Jag + WR = awesome
I meant any wide rangers. I dont' really care about the vinatge ones vs. re-issue. To me both have different flavor from a normal PAF humbucker.
Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:02 am
by boyecho
jcyphe wrote:Aeon wrote:Novak is currently working on making accurate Widerange pickups, so we may be seeing them before the end of the year.
That Jag + WR = awesome
I meant any wide rangers. I dont' really care about the vinatge ones vs. re-issue. To me both have different flavor from a normal PAF humbucker.
i agree. they're different, sure, but the new ones still have a really cool sound.
Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:45 am
by Aeon
I dunno, imo the new ones sound overly bassy and not as detailed. I've only heard a "real" WR in the neck position though.
Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:10 am
by Mike
The RI wide-rangers sound great. Too much bollocks is talked about them not been exactly the same - listen - they sound good. Particularly with 1meg pots.
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:55 pm
by vic108
MAN! I wanna try one of these.
Is DEAD PENNY still arond the forum?
If so dude, let me know when you get some in yer shoppe!
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:18 am
by benwalker
i don't see the point in having the kill-switch the same as the normal plastic rhythm circuit selector switch. it's tricky to engage at best, let alone to try and use for jack white style stuttering.. push to kill or big-ass toggle would have made more sense, but probably detract from the looks of that top panel...
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:27 am
by Doog
benwalker wrote:i don't see the point in having the kill-switch the same as the normal plastic rhythm circuit selector switch. it's tricky to engage at best, let alone to try and use for jack white style stuttering.. push to kill or big-ass toggle would have made more sense, but probably detract from the looks of that top panel...
Nah, my Jazzy has a 3-way killswitch up top and it looks AWESOME.
Although I suppose it's chrome Jaggyness, rather than Jazzy scratchplateness it'd be going on to.
And yeah, the stock slider is SHIT for anything over than changing circuit, I tried and failed, hence the 3-way.
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:35 am
by Mike
A toggly would look GREAT on the Chrome Plate I think.
Since when is that "Jack White Style". I always associate kill switching with Morello and to a lesser extent Buckethead.
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:47 am
by benwalker
morello.. buckethead... townshend... hell even randy rhoads.. for some reason jw was the first name that plopped out - seems to have taken to doing it a lot recently, down to the point of just pulling out/pushing in the lead from the amp.. i digress though...
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:49 am
by Mike
I hate him even more now.
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:33 am
by NickS
Doog wrote:benwalker wrote:i don't see the point in having the kill-switch the same as the normal plastic rhythm circuit selector switch. it's tricky to engage at best, let alone to try and use for jack white style stuttering.. push to kill or big-ass toggle would have made more sense, but probably detract from the looks of that top panel...
Nah, my Jazzy has a 3-way killswitch up top and it looks AWESOME.
Although I suppose it's chrome Jaggyness, rather than Jazzy scratchplateness it'd be going on to.
And yeah, the stock slider is SHIT for anything over than changing circuit, I tried and failed, hence the 3-way.
Pete Boot of Budgie used the slider on his SG on "Zoom Club", their 1974 single. Can upload if someone wants to tell me where.
[edit: Didn't know it at the time but Ray Philips had been replaced by Pete Boot]
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:38 pm
by DGNR8
I am thrilled they have issues. People will sell them off and the rest of us can fix them. I guess that means they will stop making them? Too bad Fender is so big they can't listen to user feedback. They might turn out some decent guitars that way.
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:43 pm
by ElCapitan
oh god not Budgie! lamest band ever.
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:57 pm
by markocaster
I took a look at the MIM at GC a few days ago. it looks cool. But has a few little issues , the neck looks wirer , strange colour? just looks cheap , compared to a CIJ. the switches are cheap, they arent smooth like a CIJ or American version. Bridge seemed cool, doesn/t rock back and forth. finish was nice apart from the neck, it just looked like a cheap $100 guitar neck, maybe it was just that particular one , the Jazzmaster MIM looked better.?? Anyway , not bad but for that price you can but a nice CIJ and have cash to spare.
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:54 pm
by suede
I went to guitar center yesterday. They had the MIM jags and jazzmasters. I didn't plug one in but I did lifted them and strummed them. They do feel cheaper and lighter than the Japanese versions. With a price tag of over 800 bucks, I was like "fuck that, get Japanese jazzy on Ebay instead."
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:01 pm
by vic108
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm...........
you guys may be right.
Those MIJ Fenders are superb.......
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:47 pm
by finboy
Mike wrote:I always associate kill switching with Morello and to a lesser extent Buckethead.
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