Fulltone Fulldrive II

Aeon · Post by **Aeon** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 4:49 pm

Dismissing SRV as "white man's blues" is pretty ignorant and just shows that you never listened to him. Stuff like 'Lenny', his Hendrix covers, all of Texas flood are GIANT steps above some lawyer guy on youtube wanking around on the pentatonic.

I mean we all have our preferences and everything but your opinions seem sort of ignorant. I still think you never played a good TS

*all in good fun, don't take me too seriously... except that you really ought to at least give SRV a try

Post by **Mike** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 4:53 pm

I think your word selection is off.

When you say "ignorant" you mean "correct". I don't like Tubescreamers or Stevie Ray Vaughan. I also hate Rory Gallagher, most of Hendrix's material, Vai, Malmsteen, Rhoades, Satriani and the like.

Get over it.

Aeon · Post by **Aeon** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 4:58 pm

Nah man, it's one thing to say you just don't like it, and another to dismiss him entirely as some sort of hack. I also hate players like Vai, Satriani, etc. but I don't just dismiss them as "wankers". That's reserved for the wannabes that can't quite emulate them beyond playing locrian modes on pointy guitars really fast. But hey, no need to worry about. We all like different things.

Just out of curiosity, what is your ideal tone then? It's all taste, and we probably have very different opinions about what we like.

Post by **Mike** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:04 pm

When did I say he was a hack? He's a White guy playing the blues. I hate that.

Everyone has personal taste - there's no need to get upset because mine doesn't match yours. I personally find that stuff all boring as sin.
And Vai and Satriana are clearly wankers.

Anyone playing instrumental "music" based around guitar fireworks is a twat in my opinion. I like songs.

I like lots of guitar sounds. I think using the term tone in that way is wank. It's one of my pet peeves.

Aeon · Post by **Aeon** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:10 pm

Guitar sounds, guitar timbre, guitar tone, whatever. I think you knew what I meant...

Like, when you think of a clean guitar... is it a bright sparkly Fender single coil played through an amp, or is it a big fat round humbucker tone, perhaps with a little bit of dirt?

Or for overdrive/distortion, you clearly don't like a "boxy" mid sound, but somehow I doubt you also like scooped mids.

Post by **Mike** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:15 pm

I play single coils these days (despite having bought that silly Flying V thing the other day), I prefer their snappy attack and dynamic response.

I like a nice spanky clean sound but I don't think you have to go to a Fender to get that. Both the Marshall JVM410H I used to have before running into financial troubles and my Marshall 6100 head both have excellent clean channels.

I like what you would call British Overdrive, Marshall JCM800-esque crunchy overdrive with a cutting upper midrange but not a boxy midhump like a Tubescreamer. I like thunky bass retention that doesn't overpower the bass player and a crisp top end.

I also like everything in between. I like Vox Amps, I like Orange Amps and I like Laney amps. I don't have much experience with HiWatts.

I don't like Mesa Single/Dual/Triple Rectifier Saturated Distortion. I don't like Fender amps that never break up, I like Deluxe Reverbs and Super Reverbs, or a low wattage Bassman.

I like a dirt sound that communicates back to me and is dynamic to my (mainly rhythm) playing, Tubescreamers are not what I like.

Aeon · Post by **Aeon** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:22 pm

I see. Well in that case SRV is pretty much the opposite of what you prefer in a guitar sound. Mostly leads, clean Fender amp that are pushed by a TS, and a distinctly non-British voicing.

Fair 'nuff.

Post by **Mike** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:23 pm

It's also not what I like in songs, at all.

I basically dismiss out of hand anything that is overly long, without decent melody (vocally most importantly, and harmonies are a bonus) and has any form of extraneous guitar playing or overly long sections. I understand I am a song nazi, but if it doesn't grab me by the bollocks I just don't care.

mewithoutus · Post by **mewithoutus** » Sun Jun 29, 2008 3:28 am

Mike wrote:
mewithoutus wrote: shaping my own tonal landscape
Based on some other guy's gear. Nice one.

eh, if by others guys' gear you mean ONE pedal he uses, sure. like i said, i liked the tones he was getting and im not trying to be chris walla. id have to buy a tiny terror, a 64 vibrolux, 2 dr z. 2x10 cabs, and one of those new vox semihollows.

plus, what player on the earth has a completely unique setup? everyone is copping tones from everyone. everything has already been done (musically that is).

so whatever.

soma89 · Post by **soma89** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:12 pm

Mike wrote:When did I say he was a hack? He's a White guy playing the blues. I hate that.

What's so bad about a white guy playing blues? Who plays the music doesn't have anything to do with the music itself or how authentic it is. Rock and Roll and Jazz are forms of "black man" music too... and guess what? Your a white dude playing rock.

mewithoutus · Post by **mewithoutus** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:29 pm

soma89 wrote:
Mike wrote:When did I say he was a hack? He's a White guy playing the blues. I hate that.

What's so bad about a white guy playing blues?

he doesnt like it. thats whats wrong with it. just let it go. we all like and dislike things for whatever reason. its all good.

Post by **Mike** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:24 pm

soma89 wrote:
Mike wrote:When did I say he was a hack? He's a White guy playing the blues. I hate that.

What's so bad about a white guy playing blues? Who plays the music doesn't have anything to do with the music itself or how authentic it is. Rock and Roll and Jazz are forms of "black man" music too... and guess what? Your a white dude playing rock.

I can't possibly be expected to address such a poorly conjugated piece of prose.

soma89 · Post by **soma89** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:48 pm

Mike wrote:
soma89 wrote:
Mike wrote:When did I say he was a hack? He's a White guy playing the blues. I hate that.

What's so bad about a white guy playing blues? Who plays the music doesn't have anything to do with the music itself or how authentic it is. Rock and Roll and Jazz are forms of "black man" music too... and guess what? Your a white dude playing rock.
I can't possibly be expected to address such a poorly conjugated piece of prose.

Your a dumbass.

Post by **Mike** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:51 pm

That was exquisite, darling.

benecol · Post by **benecol** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:52 pm

Mike wrote:I think your word selection is off.

I don't like Tubescreamers or Stevie Ray Vaughan. I also hate Rory Gallagher, most of Hendrix's material, Vai, Malmsteen, Rhoades, Satriani and the like.

Get over it.

I was with you right up until Hendrix (and all the ones after, hactually). This is where you entered the wrongzone, though...

Mike wrote:He's a White guy playing the blues. I hate that.

Apart from him, you're pretty much right, mind. Can we add that blind, dead fella to the list?

Post by **Mike** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:53 pm

benecol wrote:
Mike wrote:I think your word selection is off.

I don't like Tubescreamers or Stevie Ray Vaughan. I also hate Rory Gallagher, most of Hendrix's material, Vai, Malmsteen, Rhoades, Satriani and the like.

Get over it.
I was with you right up until Hendrix (and all the ones after, hactually). This is where you entered the wrongzone, though...

What, you hold Vai et al sacred to your heart? I feel sorry for you.

Hendrix is overrated. He had like 5 good songs, it's not my fault you haven't realised that yet.

benecol · Post by **benecol** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:07 pm

Eh? No, you peck - they can all fuck off apart from Jimi (who did great pop singles, surprised you don't like him more). The picture's Jon Spencer, not Steve Vai, if that's what's causing confusion.

Post by **Mike** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:12 pm

I know who it is, I was referring to your post. You said I entered wrongtown, you didn't mention me reaching city limits.

I hate Jon Spencer Blues Explosion too.

The Pop Singles ARE the 5 good songs. The rest is tish.

Crosstown Traffic
All Along The Watchtower
The Wind Cries Mary
Little Wing
Foxy Lady

is all I like really. I don't really understand the big shakes behind Voodoo Chile either, and Purple Haze is kind of alright.
I never sit down and thing "Yeah, I'm going to listen to Jimi Hendrix". I just don't care.

benecol · Post by **benecol** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:39 pm

Gotcha. We're going to have to agree on some things, and differ on others. I think that's the best option.

mewithoutus · Post by **mewithoutus** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:10 pm

benecol wrote:Gotcha. We're going to have to agree on some things, and differ on others. I think that's the best option.

this has got to be one of the most sensical and level headed posts i have seen on the internet ever.