Mike's Pedal Thread

Aeon · Post by **Aeon** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:35 am

Well I have a BoR coming in, but my next pedal to (eventually) get would be a Klon Centaur. Mike, how feasible do you think making one of these would be? I know there are a few schematics out there, but I'm not sure how complex they are.

I wouldn't be able to buy it anytime soon, but maybe like two or three months down the line.

finboy · Post by **finboy** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:22 am

Mike wrote:
finboy wrote:shredmaster/guv'nor combined into one pedal?
I could do both of those individually no sweat.

Combined? I have a case large enough to do it if you really mean it. Will be fun to have 10 knobs and two footswitches on the front.

how big would the box be?

Mr Mustache · Post by **Mr Mustache** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 2:21 am

Aeon wrote:Well I have a BoR coming in, but my next pedal to (eventually) get would be a Klon Centaur. Mike, how feasible do you think making one of these would be? I know there are a few schematics out there, but I'm not sure how complex they are.

I wouldn't be able to buy it anytime soon, but maybe like two or three months down the line.

i would totally buy one!

Mages · Post by **Mages** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:04 am

bubbles_horwitz wrote:how much for a mutron bi-phase clone?

haha

no but really...

Post by **Mike** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:13 am

finboy wrote:
Mike wrote:
finboy wrote:shredmaster/guv'nor combined into one pedal?
I could do both of those individually no sweat.

Combined? I have a case large enough to do it if you really mean it. Will be fun to have 10 knobs and two footswitches on the front.
how big would the box be?

Same size as the box for Hurb's Fuzz but just under twice as deep. If you're serious it would be some serious wedge to get that all in there and working correctly, I'd rather build them as separate pedals.

Sorry about not getting the BiPhase joke, I haven't seen the schematic, I vaguely remember it's a complex looking box, let's say "No" for now shall we.

As for the Klon, maybe. I have a schematic, I would like to breadboard that one first though to make sure I'm happy with it before committing to making one.

finboy · Post by **finboy** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:44 am

Mike wrote:
finboy wrote:
Mike wrote: I could do both of those individually no sweat.

Combined? I have a case large enough to do it if you really mean it. Will be fun to have 10 knobs and two footswitches on the front.
how big would the box be?
Same size as the box for Hurb's Fuzz but just under twice as deep. If you're serious it would be some serious wedge to get that all in there and working correctly, I'd rather build them as separate pedals.

ballpark figure for both as seperate pedals?

Post by **Mike** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:52 am

Â£85 a pop I would say, with them having 5 controls and fairly involved circuits.

You may want to investigate these guys who clone them for less (and in smaller boxes than I could manage seeing as they have made PCBs):
http://www.pureanalogeffects.com/

Hell Razor (Shredmaster) - $129
http://www.pureanalogeffects.com/hellrazor.aspx

Hot box (Guv'nor) - $125
http://www.pureanalogeffects.com/hotbox.aspx

Post by **Mike** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:54 am

Incidentally I've ordered the extra parts I'll need to make a Klon so we'll see how it goes when I try to prototype it over the next couple of months.

It's a beast of a circuit.

tribi9 · Post by **tribi9** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:05 am

Mike have you ever heard of a pedal called Reverbamaster?

Post by **Mike** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:08 am

Nope.

tribi9 · Post by **tribi9** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:21 am

Sorry it is called reverbamate actually....

Check it out, Is cloning this beatch feasible?

Reverbamate

Post by **Mike** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:25 am

I can't find a schematic for it unfortunately, so no, it seems.

Justin J · Post by **Justin J** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:42 pm

Mike wrote:Sorry about not getting the BiPhase joke, I haven't seen the schematic, I vaguely remember it's a complex looking box, let's say "No" for now shall we.

http://m.bareille.free.fr/biphase/the_vintage.htm

oh man, it's frighteningly complex. i wanted to build one until i saw the schematic. it makes the price of vintage ones seem reasonable.

Post by **Mike** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:48 pm

Yeah, fuck that noise. I'm just one guy. You'd have to pay me Â£400 for it to be worth my while building that.

Mr Mustache · Post by **Mr Mustache** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 2:14 pm

bubbles_horwitz wrote:
Mike wrote:Sorry about not getting the BiPhase joke, I haven't seen the schematic, I vaguely remember it's a complex looking box, let's say "No" for now shall we.
http://m.bareille.free.fr/biphase/the_vintage.htm

oh man, it's frighteningly complex. i wanted to build one until i saw the schematic. it makes the price of vintage ones seem reasonable.

yeah for real, i didn't realize how HUGH that thing was until a saw this picture, where you can see the octave divider in the same picture and that pedal is pretty damn big, my moms boyfriend has one. but pales in compairson to the BiPhase

Post by **Mike** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 2:16 pm

I'll keep you guys up to date on the Klon stuff as I get on with it - it's a fairly invovled circuit though, it has it's only special CMOS power chip for the TL op-amps, and also a dual gang 100K gain pot. It's original though, which is nice.

NickD · Post by **NickD** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 2:18 pm

Opinion Mike - would a Saltbooster/Plus make my Musicmaster bass amp break up quicker? I am new to these booster jobbies.

If so, I could well be interested.

Post by **Mike** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 2:36 pm

NickD wrote:Opinion Mike - would a Saltbooster/Plus make my Musicmaster bass amp break up quicker? I am new to these booster jobbies.

If so, I could well be interested.

It'll smack the preamp hard so yeah it'll break up, you should be able to dial the overall volume of the amp down and still smack the front end into overdrive I think. Depends where the Volume control is in the amplifier path. We'll kick one in the nuts with it at Doogfest and see what happens.

NickD · Post by **NickD** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 3:01 pm

Good idea

inscho · Post by **inscho** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:25 pm

i want a cornish style multieffects with every zvex pedal, including all 4 probes.

pm me price, kthxbi.