Who uses #11's on their short-scale guitars?

iCEByTes · Post by **iCEByTes** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 6:22 am

tribi9 wrote:
Armchair Bronco wrote:Cobain didn't even use the high E on half of his guitars.
Cobain is been dead for a while, plus it should be about what you like not about what Cobain liked.

hahahhaha

Armchair Bronco · Post by **Armchair Bronco** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 6:41 am

tribi9 wrote:Cobain is been dead for a while, plus it should be about what you like not about what Cobain liked.

Dude: what makes you think that just because I mentioned Cobain in passing, I'm somehow forcing myself to use #11's when, in fact, I'd be much happier with #8's? I AM MY OWN MAN! And what does his being dead have to do with anything?

Having said that...as a rhythm player, I don't really use the high E that much, so if I had to give up one string, it'd be the high E. Anecdotally, it just so happens that the acoustic guitar Cobain used on Nevermind was a 5-string-pawn-shop-beater. Coincidence? Yeah. Coincidence.

aen · Post by **aen** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 6:47 am

Armchair Bronco wrote: it just so happens that the acoustic guitar Cobain used on Nevermind was a 5-string-pawn-shop-beater. Coincidence? Yeah. Coincidence.

WHAT? Are you serious?

robert(original) · Post by **robert(original)** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 6:58 am

on my tele that i made myseld 12's
on my j.s. jazz 13's altho i just put some 10's on it for fun
pretty much any guitar i use AT LEAST 12's just becuz i play like a drunk ape and i use the trem like a crack on the hunt for a rock.
acoustics....
depends on the style.
i have been putting 12's on the 06 malibu and 14's on the 86 malibu.
some acoustics respond better with heavier string(i.e. any sort of solid top x braced dreadnaught)
parlor sized instruments usually respond better with 12's or a lighter gauge, but it really depends on the top and the bracing.

tribi9 · Post by **tribi9** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:03 am

Armchair Bronco wrote: I AM MY OWN MAN! And what does his being dead have to do with anything?

I`m just saying he hasn't been relevant in quite some time now.

Armchair Bronco · Post by **Armchair Bronco** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:15 am

tribi9 wrote:
Armchair Bronco wrote: I AM MY OWN MAN! And what does his being dead have to do with anything?
I`m just saying he hasn't been relevant in quite some time now.

Cobain's estate grossed something like $50 million in 2006, surpassing the estate of another dead (and by your definition, presumably irrelevant) musician: Elvis Presley, who only managed to rake in $42 million two years ago. Among dead celebrities, irrelevant John Lenon was a distant 4th @ $24 million, behind Charles Schultz.

By any measure, Cobain is still more relevant than 90% of today's crop of cookie-cutter singers who neither play guitar nor write their own lyrics or melodies. Christ, the man has an entire genre of music (GRUNGE) that will forever be linked to the band that he fronted. How can you get more relevant than that?

Armchair Bronco · Post by **Armchair Bronco** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:38 am

aen wrote:
Armchair Bronco wrote: it just so happens that the acoustic guitar Cobain used on Nevermind was a 5-string-pawn-shop-beater. Coincidence? Yeah. Coincidence.
WHAT? Are you serious?

Yeah, Butch Vig (the producer of Nevermind) talks about Kurt's bizarre 5-string acoustic guitar on several occasions during the VH1 "Classic Albums" teardown of Nevermind. This guitar, which was featured on "Polly" and "Something in the Way", was missing the high E string and it had the original nylon strings on it from the day when Cobain first bought it from a pawn shop.

aen · Post by **aen** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:44 am

No, Impossible.

tribi9 · Post by **tribi9** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:47 am

Armchair Bronco wrote:
Yeah, Butch Vig (the producer of Nevermind) talks about Kurt's bizarre 5-string acoustic guitar on several occasions during the VH1 "Classic Albums" teardown of Nevermind. This guitar, which was featured on "Polly" and "Something in the Way", was missing the high E string and it had the original nylon strings on it from the day when Cobain first bought it from a pawn shop.

So you`re saying he used a Classical guitar

aen · Post by **aen** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:48 am

I SAID NO! IMPOSSIBLE! IT WAS ALL JAG-STANG! EVERY NOTE!

tribi9 · Post by **tribi9** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:52 am

aen · Post by **aen** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:55 am

Did you know that aen playes a guitar with ONLY 4 STRIGNZ? It's all over The Ronald Raygun: Preventing Murder Through Music

tribi9 · Post by **tribi9** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:57 am

aen wrote:Did you know that aen playes a guitar with ONLY 4 STRIGNZ? It's all over The Ronald Raygun: Preventing Murder Through Music

That`s a few more than what the POTUSA used on theirs...

Armchair Bronco · Post by **Armchair Bronco** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:58 am

tribi9 wrote:So you`re saying he used a Classical guitar

Seems that way. It was allegedly a 12-string classical Stella that he bought for something like $20.00. It had nylon strings, but 7 of the 12 strings were missing, including the high E.

I've never seen a picture of it, but it may have looked something like this one...only crummier:

In keeping with the theme of this thread, it probably has some really thick strings!

tribi9 · Post by **tribi9** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 8:09 am

Armchair Bronco wrote:
tribi9 wrote:So you`re saying he used a Classical guitar
Seems that way. It was allegedly a 12-string classical Stella that he bought for something like $20.00. It had nylon strings, but 7 of the 12 strings were missing, including the high E.

It was actually an acoustic strung up with Nylons according to my friend Google. Still tho`. I loved Nirvana when i was in High School, Ive been out for 15 years. `So I don`t really get too excited about Cobain stuff.

Just like Star Wars, I loved the movies as a kid. I passed out at the theater watching whatever the last one was, episode III (Can`t even remember the name)

aen · Post by **aen** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 8:17 am

Seriosuly dudes, it was a twelver with only 5 strings. Theres a picture in some guitar world magazine, where they reprint all the artiles on one band or another.

Armchair Bronco · Post by **Armchair Bronco** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 8:19 am

Bottom line: if you want a beefier (dare I say "grungier") tone, you need thick strings: at least #50's for the low E if not thicker strings.

And if you're using a 24" short-scale guitar to achieve such beefy tones, then you have an extra incentive to use heavier gauge strings to put some needed tension behind your strings.

rodvonbon · Post by **rodvonbon** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:40 pm

Armchair Bronco wrote:Bottom line: if you want a beefier (dare I say "grungier") tone, you need thick strings: at least #50's for the low E if not thicker strings.

I dunno dude, are you sure you wanna make a blanketed statement like that?
There is more to a guitars tone than the string guage. The pickup and amp you use plays a huge part in how it sounds. I play .09s exclusively and there is nothing thin about how any of them sound. I choose my strings by comfort and being able to bend anywhere on the neck.
Look at all the surf guitar dudes that use 11s or 12s I wouldn't exactly call that a beefy tone.

ultratwin · Post by **ultratwin** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 2:12 pm

ZOMG.

A sudden incursion of Teh Kurdtz Warz in retrospect just injected lithium into a thread about string gauge on short scale guitars.

ElCapitan · Post by **ElCapitan** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 2:49 pm

Armchair Fanboy stfu. Most of us are exiles from that Cobain fanboy site and have heard enough man-lactation on the subject allready.

I put 11-49 d'Addarios on my Jag-Stang btw.