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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 12:54 pm
by More Cowbell
othomas2 wrote:More Cowbell wrote:
are you trying to see if anyone would notice ?
The asshole that has the pic on his website won't let you hotlink it, so I had to alter the photo to make it my own and upload it to my photobucket so we can see it.
Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 1:40 am
by dots
stewart wrote:i'm surprised people STILL ACTUALLY CARE what fucking bridge kurt cobain used or why he used it, or which brand of gaffa tape he used to stick his switches down. get a grip.
i'm kinda in this camp, though more from a "let the kid have it" perspective. nirvana's music is slathered in all kinds of great guitar tones, so i'm not surprised when anybody what's to emulate that. why does anybody care so much?
Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 1:43 am
by dots
paul_ wrote:When your Jag has a tune-o-matic and humbuckers, let alone is GAFFA TAPED into the "bridge bucker only" position, you're not going for any kind of "that modified jag" sound. He modified all his guitars to sound like Fat Strats while being really comfortable shortscales, I think.
makes sense to me, actually. i love the look and feel of jags and 'stangs, but i usually prefer a thicker, more substantial tone than a single coil gets me.
Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:56 pm
by ultraviolence
paul_ wrote:When your Jag has a tune-o-matic and humbuckers, let alone is GAFFA TAPED into the "bridge bucker only" position, you're not going for any kind of "that modified jag" sound. He modified all his guitars to sound like Fat Strats while being really comfortable shortscales, I think.
Actually his Jag was modified when he bought it, and I remain convinced that he was completely clueless as to what a real Jag was like. Why bitch about Mustang bridges and not Jaguar ones? Why conceive of a guitar, greenlight all the parts to it, have it built especially for you 1-3 times over, and then, upon taking delivery of it, have your guitar tech shim the fucking neck to put an incompatible bridge on it?
I always thought his guitars sounded more like a les paul than a strat (or atleast that's what a bunch of reviews on Mustangs & Jags have people saying...)
I kinda understand why he would do that though, I really liek the sound most Strats have, it's just for some reason I find them really uncomfortable to play, not just cause I like Short scales alot more, but it's the feel of the bridge, and a bunch of other things...it's just really uncomfortable for me.
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:43 am
by Mike
dots wrote:nirvana's music is slathered in all kinds of great guitar tones
I think the albums are.
Live? Not so much. I think it's more testimony to Vig and Albini's recording skill than Kurt's setup. If you get a DS-1, a humbucker Jaguar, a Mesa Preamp and a Crown power amp, you won't sound like In Utero, you'll sound like
Wishkah, which is not good.
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:38 pm
by aen
It all sounds the same through a DS-1.
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:54 pm
by Mike
aen wrote:It all sounds the same through a DS-1.
Pretty much.
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:27 pm
by stewart
in my experience you can tweak a ds-1 to sound quite good once it's recorded, but they're generally complete cack live.
edit: duh, that's kind of what was said up above isn't it?... but anyway, you don't have to be a professional to get a workable recorded sound from it... rubbish live though, whichever way you slice it.
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:30 pm
by Mike
They sound nothing like the In Utero guitar sound in person.
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:32 pm
by Reece
Yeah his live sounds seem very stale. Cold solid-state sounding cleans and then nasty fizzy DS-1 distortion.
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:44 pm
by stewart
Mike wrote:They sound nothing like the In Utero guitar sound in person.
i could imagine albini saying "get rid of that" when he turned up with it. i've read/seen interviews with butch vig years ago where he mentions suggesting different amps and distortions to use in the studio, a big muff through a fender bassman on 'lithium' being an example that sticks in my mind. i'd think cobain, like any musician with half a brain, was open to suggestions about sounds and gear.
'scentless apprentice' sounds a bit ds-1ish, not much else on that album does though.
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:46 pm
by Mike
Zaphod wrote:Yeah his live sounds seem very stale. Cold solid-state sounding cleans and then nasty fizzy DS-1 distortion.
That's an accurate synopsis. The cleans were terrible.
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 3:20 pm
by aen
Actually Kurtdz was using a lot of dwarfcraft and Livesley electronics on in Utero.
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 3:21 pm
by Mike
This is a rumour I can confirm also.
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 3:31 pm
by aen
Courtney gave it to him when Frances bean was born in an effort to help him quit smack.
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 3:33 pm
by Mike
hahahaha
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 3:36 pm
by mezzio13
aen wrote:
Courtney gave it to him when Frances bean was born in an effort to help him quit smack.
That's funny because I've heard that TGD's are referred to as electronic smack.
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:43 am
by aen
Another fan of drugs AND dwarfcraft.
Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 9:35 pm
by AkK
Then you lost lots and lots of time.
I don't think Kurt cares about his tones and stuff... He cares much on lyrics i guess. That's why everybody "think" that all songs are same. And i guess he could say that "That's my favourite one" to every guitar when he is flying.