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Reece wrote:

Noirie. wrote:Electro harmonix are wankers

bit strong no?

The Deluxe memory man didn't have to be updated its just bloody pointless

this does seem like a sideways move.

i do want a SMM with hazarai though.

Nothing like a tarting-up to reinvigorate interest. I'm sure it'll tempt more people in who don't have the pedalboard real estate for the original.

Noirie. wrote:

Reece wrote:

Noirie. wrote:Electro harmonix are wankers

bit strong no?

The Deluxe memory man didn't have to be updated its just bloody pointless

Actually I suggest this might be to reduce manufacturing costs as the folded steel ones might be too expensive to tool now. There is certainly a reason why EHX is moving over all their effects to that box.

Fair point euan

riotshield wrote:if i remember well scott from EHX mentioned somewhere that its not EXACTLY the same circuit as some parts were replaced for RoHS compliance. this is kind of sad, as the original sound will be lost

It is exactly the same circuit -- my understanding is that the process that generates the new board results in a RoHS compliant board, whereas the process that generated the classic board didn't.

Looks like they just wanted it to have the same look as their newer pedals. Fair enough, but like Mike said it sort of loses that iconic layout. Shame.

as far as i am concerned, i care mostly for the sound. if it is as good as the original then some more pedalboard real estate wouldn't hurt.

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less_cunning wrote:i agree w/ that. all their newer pedals look the same, esp. knob-wise.

I don't quite get this -- wouldn't you say the same for the 'trapezoid' pedals too -- ie, don't those all look the same knob-wise too? Or, for that matter, just about any group of pedals that all use the same enclosure?

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It's just modern manufacturing costs. It's obviously cheaper for them to use parts as similar as possible so they can use the same machines/ assembly lines for all of the pedals.

EHX wrote:

less_cunning wrote:i agree w/ that. all their newer pedals look the same, esp. knob-wise.

I don't quite get this -- wouldn't you say the same for the 'trapezoid' pedals too -- ie, don't those all look the same knob-wise too? Or, for that matter, just about any group of pedals that all use the same enclosure?

but hey, this is true. before some years most of the more complex pedals where in the trapezoid casing with the same knob positioning.

I just think having a bit more individuality than just the decal is important. Take these two recent pedals for example:



Spot the difference?

Don't get me wrong, I think they all look great and it wouldn't put me off buying them, but the DMM is known for having knobs around the edge and the button on the side, and I'm sure without harming manufacturing costs too much, these newer pedals could all have unique identities of their own. The Voice Box and SMM could easily be slightly different, it's not like they're cheap pedals anyway.

Malik wrote:the DMM is known for having knobs around the edge and the button on the side, and I'm sure without harming manufacturing costs too much, these newer pedals could all have unique identities of their own.

totally agree with this

kinda similar arent they?

hahah.. Science!

I don't think this is a heinous or bad move at all. Personally I prefer the big box aesthetic and I have one.
People have been asking for a small DMM on the forums for years now and EHX are responding and keeping the circuit intact, that is to be praised - if only all pedal, guitar and amp companies were so in tune with their target market's hopes and wishes.

A perfect example would be Boss not reissuing some incredibly discontinued popular pedals they could make a killing on. I think it's a great move - they're still one of my favourite companies.

Personally, I think I would rather have all my pedals look the same than have to pay extra money and space just to have them look different or have their own unique identities.

I really don't care what they look like.

Mike wrote:hahah.. Science!

I don't think this is a heinous or bad move at all. Personally I prefer the big box aesthetic and I have one.
People have been asking for a small DMM on the forums for years now and EHX are responding and keeping the circuit intact, that is to be praised - if only all pedal, guitar and amp companies were so in tune with their target market's hopes and wishes.

A perfect example would be Boss not reissuing some incredibly discontinued popular pedals they could make a killing on. I think it's a great move - they're still one of my favourite companies.

Thanks Mike!

I should note the original plan was to finish out the supply of classic DMMs, declare them 'doscontinued', and then switch over to the new DMM.

Personally, I didn't much like that plan, and thanks to feedback from forums, etc., we tweaked out a better (imho) plan: as of now, you have a choice of new or classic DMM (though we still only expect the classic to remain available for a little while, so it's a good time to get one). But then, rather than declare it 'discontinued', it will be considered 'unavailable' -- that might sound like splitting hairs, but I think it's a meaningful difference.