I (Really) wanted to like them but didnâ€™t!

BoringPostcards · Post by **BoringPostcards** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:59 am

Jags definitely have a different feel to them. It takes a little while to get used to it. It depends on what your used to. I used a tele mostly when I started out, and when I started playing jazzys/jags the first thing I found awkward was the bridge and how different it was when playing. This is hard to explain but the tele bridge/saddles etc. are much closer to the body of the guitar so it was strange getting used to the difference in height of the strings from the body. Also the strings being behind the bridge. Much like the difference between a standard acoustic bridge and an archtop style bridge. Of course this is just what I noticed, it may have nothing to do with your experience. I recommend giving it some more time on a better day and see if it can't hit your fancy. Excellent guitars, they be.

Post by **Mike** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:14 am

stewart wrote:
Mike wrote:vintage Mustang bridge.
you having bother with the stock one or is it just for trysies?

Knocked out the E a few times at rehearsal. I got a late 60's/early 70s Mustang bridge on ebay from our very own Vincel which I installed last night, lovin' it.

Thom · Post by **Thom** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:26 am

Took me quite a while to fall in love with my Jag - over a year probably, but now it's my go to Fender.
A few tweaks and it's a lovely guitar, certainly an acquired taste for me though.

kevlar · Post by **kevlar** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:32 pm

what shops were you looking at? i'm in glasgow too, and i've never seen a CIJ and CP in the same shop

stewart · Post by **stewart** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:52 pm

guitarguitar stock both.

link

they have the jap ones listed as 'classic' jaguars though, for some reason.

dezb1 · Post by **dezb1** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:14 pm

kevlar wrote:what shops were you looking at? i'm in glasgow too, and i've never seen a CIJ and CP in the same shop

merchant city music, They have both in sunburst (I wanted a white one as I have a couple of sunburst guitars and fancied a change)

Post by **Mike** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:06 pm

They only do the HH CP in white, the single coil version only comes in Sunburst and CAR.

Thomas · Post by **Thomas** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:14 pm

Gimme a shout if you're going to get one. Depending on where you're gonna buy I might be able to get you a discount. Or you could buy my smexy upgraded one...

BobArsecake · Post by **BobArsecake** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:18 pm

A Jaguar that isn't set up is a horrible, horrible guitar. However if it is set up properly, I can't think of another guitar that I'd rather play, perhaps a Telecaster, but then that's totally different.

dezb1 · Post by **dezb1** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:23 pm

BobArsecake wrote:A Jaguar that isn't set up is a horrible, horrible guitar. However if it is set up properly, I can't think of another guitar that I'd rather play, perhaps a Telecaster, but then that's totally different.

That might be my problem; Iâ€™ve been playing my Tele for so long most guitars feel a bit odd at first.

Thomas · Post by **Thomas** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:23 pm

My first Jaguar was set up terribly and I think that's whay I got it so cheap. One quick setip later and I'd never part with it.

Most I've seen in shops have the bridge pushed forward/back so the strings buzz on the bridge plate. Obv that isn't an issue with the CP ones.

BobArsecake · Post by **BobArsecake** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:32 pm

Thomas wrote:My first Jaguar was set up terribly and I think that's whay I got it so cheap. One quick setip later and I'd never part with it.

Same. It was all right, then I buggered about with it and I couldn't get it right, and was so close to selling it, but then got it properly set up and it's my no.1

I'd give it a couple of more gos, dezb, they're cracking guitars if you find the right one. I wasn't too taken with the CP, mostly 'cause I don't like where the vibrato is compared to the '62 - I don't find it very comfortable to use in comparison, plus I sort of resent the bridge being so radically different, but it's quite a different model in all, so meh, whatever. Horses for courses and all that.

aen · Post by **aen** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:30 am

finboy wrote:playing one in a guitar store might not be the best way to determine if you like them or not, most guitar shops put zero effort into cleaning and setting up their instruments. my local shop has a classic player and the trem is completely set up wrong, which is weird because the other they have has it set up properly.

+1 and they come from the factory with 9s. Which just DOESN'T WORK with a jaguar trem system. Even my shop which is generally really good, they don't even listen when I say "This guitar is fucked up, it needs to be set up, friends." They let me set up a Jag once, but nobody paid attention, so I'm still the only dude that goes in there who can set one up.

paul_ · Post by **paul_** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:52 am

aen wrote:
+1 and they come from the factory with 9s.

10s.

MMPicker · Post by **MMPicker** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:13 am

Mike wrote:They only do the HH CP in white

http://www.elderly.com/fmic/items/FCPJGSHH-3SB.htm

aen · Post by **aen** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:13 am

paul_ wrote:
aen wrote:
+1 and they come from the factory with 9s.
10s.

SHITS. Either way, it is the WRONG string gauge for the guitar. It can't function properly with those itsy bitsy strings.

paul_ · Post by **paul_** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:58 am

Sure can.

taylornutt · Post by **taylornutt** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:13 am

MMPicker wrote:
Mike wrote:They only do the HH CP in white
http://www.elderly.com/fmic/items/FCPJGSHH-3SB.htm

There are almost no demos on Youtube of the CP HH.

I think I have seen 2 demos of CP HH (sunburst). I really want the white one cause I love the white with red tort combo.

I want to do a demo showing of the rolling coil taps. Most people don't know it works different from a stand Jag.

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Post by **Mike** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:26 am

BobArsecake wrote:
Thomas wrote:My first Jaguar was set up terribly and I think that's whay I got it so cheap. One quick setip later and I'd never part with it.

Same. It was all right, then I buggered about with it and I couldn't get it right, and was so close to selling it, but then got it properly set up and it's my no.1

I'd give it a couple of more gos, dezb, they're cracking guitars if you find the right one. I wasn't too taken with the CP, mostly 'cause I don't like where the vibrato is compared to the '62 - I don't find it very comfortable to use in comparison, plus I sort of resent the bridge being so radically different, but it's quite a different model in all, so meh, whatever. Horses for courses and all that.

I would say it's definitely not really designed for the wang-bar user, it's more of a rock orientated chorder's dream.

You'll probably love my '66 for vibrato shenanigans, but I need to get a whammy bar for it. Do vintage ones screw it or pop in?

Post by **Mike** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:28 am

MMPicker wrote:
Mike wrote:They only do the HH CP in white
http://www.elderly.com/fmic/items/FCPJGSHH-3SB.htm

You misunderstood me, I was saying you can't get the Single coil one in white, only HH.