get him the best clean sounding amp he can afford and a metal zone pedal. providing a setup with SHTLAODS OF FXS that all sound of ass only contributes to the wealth of idiotic n00bz who know nothing about how tone works. if/when the kid decides to wander into sound with mids and. . . MUSIC, he won't be required to ditch his entire setup again. this combo will also allow him to add pedals as he wants and control them conveniently with his sneakers instead of twiddling knobs on the amp (which is a pain in the ass when jamming w/ others).
YES you can achieve better with a clean tube amp and the individual effects but cost would kill you by the time you get every sound that the spider can
PLUS IT HAS WHAMMY SETTINGS, COME ON FOLKS!
JOHNNY MARRRR
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:34 am
by superfuzz
dots wrote:get him the best clean sounding amp he can afford and a metal zone pedal. providing a setup with SHTLAODS OF FXS that all sound of ass only contributes to the wealth of idiotic n00bz who know nothing about how tone works. if/when the kid decides to wander into sound with mids and. . . MUSIC, he won't be required to ditch his entire setup again. this combo will also allow him to add pedals as he wants and control them conveniently with his sneakers instead of twiddling knobs on the amp (which is a pain in the ass when jamming w/ others).
+1, I tried explaining this to a friend, he bought a spider, now that he wants to play different music he's looking for a valve amp.
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:50 am
by Will
Alright, so assuming $85 for a MZ, what's a cheap clean amp that takes pedals well?
Keep in mind that this stuff has to be obtained by a 54yo grandpa who isn't internet-savvy.
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:09 am
by superfuzz
used peavey classic 30? used fender hotrods? used peavey Valvekings? Peavey windsors?
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:24 am
by Will
superfuzz wrote:Peavey windsors?
lolz
Windsor doesn't make anything even resembling a clean at any setting.
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 3:02 pm
by less_cunning
if you get the kid cheaper stuff now he will appreciate the grey poupon stuff later.
i'd say get the kid a Peavey amp AND a Metal Zone. or the Orange 30R. ($200 & yeah it's solid state & madeinkorea BUT he can get a tube amp when he goes to college.)
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:17 pm
by dezb1
Sloan wrote:SOMETHING WITH A HEADPHONE JACK.
+1
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:19 pm
by crofty
Freddy V-C wrote:
laterallateral wrote:
hotrodperlmutter wrote:vox valvetronix!
seconded
Thirded.
I'm trying to get rid of mine at the moment, but for the price it's a great amp at bedroom volumes and an okay-ish amp at gig volumes. It has a load of different sounds which I found useful until I started to get more into using pedals.
ive got one. trying to get rid of it too. cant abide by modelling amps, i want something real.
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:20 pm
by ac88
Crate GT212,
great solid state, cheaper than the peavey bandit, way louder. The cleans are great, and the overdrive channel has a great low-gain sound when you tweak it just right. The 'solo' channel is super high-gain. You can get one for less than 500(Canadian), a great amp for starting a band. When I do upgrade to a fender tube amp I would have no qualms about splitting my signal into this amp ..
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:12 pm
by dots
there's no saying that good cleans HAVE TO come from a tube amp any more than overdrive HAS TO come from tubes. i like the sound of a roland jazz chorus just fine.
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:25 pm
by jmikel17
a windsor with a tubescreamer sounds awesome in metal kinda sounds ( this is a Ts9 -> Peavey Windsor -> Mesa Rectifier 4x12 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/963137/No%20 ... 20mast.mp3 it's from another forum... sounds awesome, he's using a rectifier cab but...) and also new 5150's combos are coming out about 500 euros...
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 2:40 pm
by cur
Roland cube 20x has nice clean sounds and they also have a metal and metal stack effects setting. These amps can be gotten anywhere. Found this vid on the youtube.
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Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 12:25 pm
by less_cunning
i hope the kid gets the amp he wants...
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 12:38 pm
by Doog
I woulda loved my little Zoom amp as a beginner; it's like a multi FX stuck inside an amp in a good way. Most of the distortion modes are pretty damn good, especially the Marshall, Boogie and Peavey types.
