IMO the pedaltrain just complicate matters, I don't see many benefits to a simple box like board other than its in fashionable to own one right now.
Silly holes... ohh shall a put these 3 inchs up or down... hmmm.. cabling thats gonna get snagged underneath or be a nightmare to rewire in a hurry. You are hiding the mess, not improving matters. Instead of closing the lid you gotta try shuffle it into a bag. I've never trusted velcro... so there is no way to chain link to these boards. mega fail for me...
Apart from the weight, a Diago Board is far superior & neater ... even if you can see MORE wires.
Each to there own & all that.
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 6:15 pm
by Haze
The velcroe that PT supplies is very good. I can tip my whole board upside down and shake it violently without anything ever budging. This is good because I impliment this into all my bands songs in some small way
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 6:35 pm
by Mike
Haze wrote:The velcroe that PT supplies is very good. I can tip my whole board upside down and shake it violently without anything ever budging. This is good because I impliment this into all my bands songs in some small way
You can buy decent velcro off ebay or anyplace. This should not be a reason to pay £100 for a bit of metal.
My Diago Showman cost that, and is much bigger and can fall down stairs and remain intact.
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:03 pm
by ambientnoize
I'm agreeing wholeheartedly with the diago love.
The pedaltrains just seem like an expensive waste, outside of America anyway.
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:09 pm
by Mike
It's a Harmony Central thing.
They're more affordable in the States for sure, but still a little much for what they are, I think.
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:22 pm
by Rhysyrhys
Christ,
I heard the rave about these boards, there shyte!
Oi UK peeps. I have a welding kit, I'll fucking knock these out at a quarter of the price. Serious offer.
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:23 pm
by taylornutt
If you buy a hard case model, you are paying for the case. A Pedaltrain pro doubles in price if you buy the ATA flight case ($150 vs $300)
Here are my videos again. Youtube disabled the audio on my second video on so I had to change it and reupload.
My old pedalboard
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Pedalboard Teardown and Pedaltrain pro
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:08 pm
by taylornutt
What makes the Pedaltrain a nice option is you can mount the power supply underneath and save space on the top of the board. Cable snag shouldn't be a big issue if you tywrap the cables or get a cable kit. I will admit I miss my second elevated row for reaching the back pedals easier, but elevated rows limit where you can put things. Time will tell if I like it better than what I have. Regardless, my huge pedals eat up my board space quickly. I do like how the wah pedal feels on the angled board. It seems smoother when clicking it off and on.
The Diago boards remind me of NYC pedalboards (similar to my homemade board). Look very nicely made.
Don't you have to take pedaltrains right out of the ATA hardcase to use them anyway? I remember a chap having to get cases specially made to house his board while he played. The diago flip lid is awesome, my set up is basically the time it takes to open the lid and plug in my adapter. I think any guitar rig bigger than a Showman is insane in the membrane, and probably too awkward to carry anywhere.
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:42 pm
by taylornutt
ambientnoize wrote:Don't you have to take pedaltrains right out of the ATA hardcase to use them anyway? I remember a chap having to get cases specially made to house his board while he played. The diago flip lid is awesome, my set up is basically the time it takes to open the lid and plug in my adapter. I think any guitar rig bigger than a Showman is insane in the membrane, and probably too awkward to carry anywhere.
Yes you do have to take them out of a case or gig bag. My old board had the removable top, but mine had 4 butterfly latches that were hard to line up. Each board has positives and negatives. I will let you know how the one works out.
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:18 pm
by Rhysyrhys
What I'm seeing is getting my welding gear out, getting a snooker cue case, cutting a hinge into the front of it then mounting a slimline version of this design with a DCBrick underneath it into the hollowed out case. Just one quite long pedalboard, but easy to carry and small. would definately fit compacts in, would have to measure up for wahs and things, but I reckon it could be really easily, cheaply and most importantly well done.
I would think of doing perforated metal sheet though instead of velcro, it would allow cable ties and stop pedals getting ruined resale value wise.
I'M REALLY MOTIVATED ON THIS ONE GUYZ. AND I HAVE TIME TO DO IT NOW. LOVE LIFE.
