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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:35 pm
by Earth
Mike wrote:it's a DPDT. If you want true bypass and LED switching, you need a 3PDT unless you want to fuck with Millenium Bypass (you don't)
You don't like Millennium 1 and 2 bypass? I think its pretty cool.
Mike wrote:I don't know what the stock bypass scheme is I'm afraid.
Just regular non Tb wiring, Input is always connected. One pole for bypass, One for the LED.
cobascis wrote:Can I pretty easily mod it back it its original state? I'd actually be nice to not have a TB pedal because I don't have any buffers..
I'm an idiot, also - I ordered an Alpha DPDT instead of a 3DPT....
Well this pedal doesn't use a buffer so the bypass will be fairly crap. Do what mike said, TB it. You can keep the OG switch too cause who needs LED's in dirt pedals!?!?!?! Or if you want the LED AND OG switch you need to Millennium it.
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:05 am
by cobascis
What is millenium bypass?
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:20 am
by Earth
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:32 am
by cobascis
I dunno how to read schematics, all I can do is look at a picture of the DPDT switch and match it.
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:35 am
by Earth
You can google image search for diagrams of it, not schematics if you need.
GGG also has it.
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:51 am
by cobascis
So can I do millenium 1 without any new materials? I couldn't figure it out from the site, just that m2 needed a new part..
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:09 am
by Earth
You need a few parts, BS170,LED etc.
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:12 am
by cobascis
I just oreded a 3DPT switch, imma go for true bypass. Do I just copy the current wiring over and attach the led to the new peg?
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 5:47 am
by Earth
Use my diagram, its better than any other way to wire a 3PDT IMHO.
If you need help, I've observed there's more than a few guys on SS that well and truly know what they are doing that can help you out. I can help you too if needed.
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:40 am
by Mike
Earth wrote:Mike wrote:it's a DPDT. If you want true bypass and LED switching, you need a 3PDT unless you want to fuck with Millenium Bypass (you don't)
You don't like Millennium 1 and 2 bypass? I think its pretty cool.
I like them plenty, but it's not something I would recommend to a non experienced builder just wanting to get something working. It's hardly simple to understand or execute.
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:22 am
by Earth
That's exactly why I did mention it, its about the simplest little circuit one can build, very low parts count, pretty straight forward, can be done PTP of the switch and if he did want to try it I would have drawn it up for him.
But anyways the 3PDT is the easiest option.
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:13 pm
by Mike
I still personally think it's overegging the pudding in the extreme in this case. Getting hold of the components and some stripboard etc is going to be a nontrivial amount of money compared to just getting a 3DPT and whacking it in situ.
Also PTP is not something an inexperienced person should be attempting, at all. When you add millenium bypass without any prior knowledge there are about 20 things that can go wrong, when using a 3PDT, you have to wire 8 lugs.
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:01 pm
by cobascis
Yeah I'm going the easy route. I read the article twice and still was all "
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I might need some hlep when it arrives but Ill probably figurei t out.
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:06 pm
by Mike
If you post photos and stuff I'm positive we can talk you thruogh it. I would tidy things up as best you can wireswise to make things clean and easy to work with.
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:45 pm
by cobascis
Mike wrote:If you post photos and stuff I'm positive we can talk you thruogh it. I would tidy things up as best you can wireswise to make things clean and easy to work with.
I just tidied everything, but had to solder a bit of wire to the shortened wires for them to reach. I ordered some wire, though so I can rewire some stuff. I'll post back when I get it. Thanks
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:52 pm
by Mike
I'd be tempted to replace any of the taped wires completely, just because I'm a neat freak with wiring.
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:57 pm
by cobascis
Mike wrote:I'd be tempted to replace any of the taped wires completely, just because I'm a neat freak with wiring.
Yeah I'm gunna do that -- I just did a temporary clean up for the time being. I dropped my soldering iron on my rug like a year ago (left a sweet shaped burn mark..) and its a bit.. charred, its pretty shite but it heats up. I'm afraid it dirties the solder
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:58 pm
by Mike
Get a junky sponge and moisten it, you should be able to use that to clean the iron tip, and then tin it and get rid of excess..
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:49 pm
by Earth
Mike wrote:I still personally think it's overegging the pudding in the extreme in this case. Getting hold of the components and some stripboard etc is going to be a nontrivial amount of money compared to just getting a 3DPT and whacking it in situ.
Also PTP is not something an inexperienced person should be attempting, at all. When you add millenium bypass without any prior knowledge there are about 20 things that can go wrong, when using a 3PDT, you have to wire 8 lugs.
Yeah ,you are right about that!
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:31 am
by timhulio
I could fix this for you for £20 plus shipping each way, whether you want the wiring stock (you don't) true bypass with 3PDT or Millenium bypass using the existing switch. Drop me a pm if keen.