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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:43 am
by SoylentGreenIsPeople
Another reason why I prefer bolt-ons. Replacing a bolt-on neck is almost always cheaper (and always faster and easier) than repairing one.
Mahogany is just too soft for necks. Several years ago, I read that Slash's main LP has had its neck broken 3 separate times. :o I wouldn't be surprised if he's broken it again since then.

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:01 am
by Thomas
laterallateral wrote:I notice it broke at an entirely different place than it did last time, too.
Hey Gibson, maybe you should make your guitar necks ENTIRELY out of wood glue?
Nah that crack was on there from his first break. He sent me some pics when it was advertised before.

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 12:21 pm
by Rhysyrhys
I'm gonna opt for a like for like replacement with the insurance (or money for a like for like, if thats possible).

Then sell it. I'm off set necks and Gibson for life. This guitar has been a nightmare since I bought it, I will also try and dissuade any one from buying gibson in the future. Overpriced, outmoded shite.

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 12:31 pm
by SoylentGreenIsPeople
I've had two Studios in the past, which cost $1100 each. Neither was as good as my $550 MIM strat.

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:06 pm
by NickS
My late friend Martin bought an SG in a hard case when he was over in the USA first time. It went in the baggage hold and arrived in the UK with a broken headstock. Before he died in 2005 it had been repaired twice more. I'm extremely careful about where I put my Flying V (fortunately, less likely to fall over!). I got one of these for Christmas:
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brianeharmonjr wrote:the fact that you're taking pictures of it with the string tension still on it
Do you slacken off the tension on your electrics when you're not playing them? I wasn't aware this was an issue.

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:20 pm
by pumpkin
SoylentGreenIsPeople wrote:I've had two Studios in the past, which cost $1100 each. Neither was as good as my $550 MIM strat.
I would agree that Gibson Les Paul Studios are rubbish, you certainly don't get good value for money. If I had to choose between a Japanese made Epiphone and a made in the USA Gibson Les Paul Studio, I'd choose an Epiphone every time.
My late friend Martin bought an SG in a hard case when he was over in the USA first time. It went in the baggage hold and arrived in the UK with a broken headstock.
Airline companies are notoriously shit with instruments.

http://www.davecarrollmusic.com/story/united-breaks-guitars

Whenever I ship a guitar, expecting one, or checking a guitar into baggage I always insure them and de-tune them completely wrapping the guitar in bubble wrap. If I am flying with the guitar I put it in a flight case.
Do you slacken off the tension on your electrics when you're not playing them?
I only do this if I am travelling or shipping them. If I am gonna put one in storage I'll slacken off the tension... but I have rarely stored a guitar.

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:28 pm
by Reece
i took my acoustic to austalia and the bastards nearly lost it at heathrow. when it didn't come around the baggage claim (they would only let me take it as hand luggage on the way there for some reason) i nearly had a heart attack.

thankfully some guy went looking for it and came back with it about twenty minutes later.

i also got to see them loading it onto the plane when waiting in the terminal at sydney airport. that fucker threw it on and there was nothing i could except watch and hope when i got home it was all fine. it wasn't fine. these fuckers managed to put a crack in the hard shell case and then they covered it up with a fragile sticker.

i've still got the fragile sticker over the crack. the crack is cosmetic but the sticker serves to remind me to never ever let an airline anywhere near my guitars.

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:38 pm
by pumpkin
Reece wrote:i took my acoustic to austalia and the bastards nearly lost it at heathrow. when it didn't come around the baggage claim (they would only let me take it as hand luggage on the way there for some reason) i nearly had a heart attack.

thankfully some guy went looking for it and came back with it about twenty minutes later.

i also got to see them loading it onto the plane when waiting in the terminal at sydney airport. that fucker threw it on and there was nothing i could except watch and hope when i got home it was all fine. it wasn't fine. these fuckers managed to put a crack in the hard shell case and then they covered it up with a fragile sticker.

i've still got the fragile sticker over the crack. the crack is cosmetic but the sticker serves to remind me to never ever let an airline anywhere near my guitars.
What cunts.

Recently a bunch of these fuckers got done for stealing jewlery and laptops out of people's baggage.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0814/servisair.html

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:57 pm
by Thomas
SoylentGreenIsPeople wrote:I've had two Studios in the past, which cost $1100 each. Neither was as good as my $550 MIM strat.
Didn't you try them before buying? If they were worse than mex strats you must've bought real stinkers. It took me a long time to find one I liked.

Gibsons are def overpriced, I never have (or will) buy one at retail.

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:37 pm
by SoylentGreenIsPeople
I played them before I bought them. They sounded good, but they had really poor QC. Excess glue, uneven frets, etc.. Guitars that expensive shouldn't have those problems. One had a fucked up tone pot that I didn't notice until afterwards. I made the shop fix it for free.

And I like my MIM strat! The QC wasn't perfect, but it was still better than the Gibsons. After blocking the trem, it stayed in tune better, too.

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:57 pm
by TieDye
Not that anybody cares, but I have several MIM strats. They are excellent and affordable workhorses. Throw some mods in them and they get the job done. I've worked on a lot of sloppy built Gibsons lately.

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:05 pm
by SoylentGreenIsPeople
I think MIM strats are the best deal around. The tuners are great (much better than those shitty Gibson Deluxe ones).

Just pop in new pickups and you've got yourself a professional sounding axe.

I've put a Duncan Custom in the bridge--the one they advertise as being "A P.A.F. on steroids". Neck and middle single coils are rarely used, but I'll eventually upgrade them, too. I just need to get some that are nice and Jazzy sounding.

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:38 pm
by James
I'm not sure about Rhys, but I know if I had a serious money guitar that had had the headstock break off twice I wouldn't want to hear a thing along the lines of 'well you should have kept it on a guitar stand or in a case'. Fuck some Gibsons.

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 7:48 pm
by TheBurbz
Ibanez reinforce their Wizard necks with titanium and walnut strips, they know the score.

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:17 am
by Rhysyrhys
James wrote:I'm not sure about Rhys, but I know if I had a serious money guitar that had had the headstock break off twice I wouldn't want to hear a thing along the lines of 'well you should have kept it on a guitar stand or in a case'. Fuck some Gibsons.
This.

And thank you James.

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:55 am
by Nick
James wrote:I'm not sure about Rhys, but I know if I had a serious money guitar that had had the headstock break off twice I wouldn't want to hear a thing along the lines of 'well you should have kept it on a guitar stand or in a case'. Fuck some Gibsons.
And when you have an auto accident you don't like to be told that you should've had your eyes on the road instead of your radio or cell phone. Maybe saying "I told you so" is a bit much, but really, it's only Gibson's fault if they pushed the guitar over themselves. If you insist on not being careful with musical instruments I would go durability over anything on your next purchase.

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:00 pm
by Mike
It's shit design that has been pointed out and corrected by others many many times over, and for the price they're charging it is absurd that it could occur.

And people give Fender shit about cheaping out.

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:05 pm
by pumpkin
Mike wrote:It's shit design that has been pointed out and corrected by others many many times over, and for the price they're charging it is absurd that it could occur.

And people give Fender shit about cheaping out.
But a goldtop is a beautiful thing.

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:54 pm
by NickS
A crystal glass costs more than a plastic cup but is more likely to break if it falls over.


Hmm. I didn't mean to come over all Yoda there...

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:11 pm
by pumpkin
NickS wrote:A crystal glass costs more than a plastic cup but is more likely to break if it falls over.


Hmm. I didn't mean to come over all Yoda there...
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