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that salt breaker sounds perfect for me.

Pens wrote:TOD is not a Tubescreamer. At all. The frequency response and tone controls are completely different.

i know what's different about it, it's not a million miles away, is what i'm saying. comparing that and the DLS is a bit like comparing cheese and marzipan.

Pens wrote:Really though, any dirt pedal can be an OD if you just back off the gain and crank the volume on them. All OD pedals are basically gain-limited regular dirt boxes.

well commonly the practice is that overdrive uses soft clipping and distortion uses hard clipping. not always the case, mind, but often enough.

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Pens wrote:Really though, any dirt pedal can be an OD if you just back off the gain and crank the volume on them. All OD pedals are basically gain-limited regular dirt boxes.

well commonly the practice is that overdrive uses soft clipping and distortion uses hard clipping. not always the case, mind, but often enough.

No? The Tubescreamer uses normal diodes for it's clipping just like every other distortion out there. The only different is the GAIN which causes distortions to clip more severely if you turn them up. But they are the same.

I've made a fuck ton of dirt circuits dude. The only diff with fuzz/distortion/OD is the amount of gain stages you put in them.

alright, that's cool, I didn't say I necessarily disagree with you. in a way you could say as you increase the gain in a distortion circuit more and more it shapes the waveform until the peaks are almost completely flattened off. this is called hard clipping. over drive doesn't have enough gain to do that, it merely mashes down the peaks a bit. this is called soft clipping.



I'm pretty sure there are some circuits that work better for one kind of clipping rather than the other. you might be able to gain the hell out of a soft clipping circuit until it hard clips but there are a lot of circuits that just don't do soft clipping (aka overdrive) very well. fuzz being the most blatant example.

this site talks about it a bit: http://www.gmarts.org/index.php?go=217

You get harder clipping by using the same diodes and pushing the wave bigger through them. They get chopped off more until they are square waves.

In other words, you increase the gain to make harder clipping.

In other words, exactly what I said.

EDIT: To clarify further, yeah a fuzz might have multiple clipping stages but if you don't put through a high gain signal, the wave won't hit the clipping threshold and will clip the same way as a Tubescreamer does. However, distortion circuits typically have the same amount of clipping built into them. The Rat and DS-1 have the same number of clipping stages (one) as the TS808, and the diodes are the same type. There is no difference except the amount of gain.

Thanks for all the advice. In the end I ordered a Danelectro Transparent Overdrive after reading reviews and hearing soundclips etc. I figured for the price and with all the recommendations I couldn't go wrong. In fact, as all the Cool Cat range pedals are so reasonably priced, I ordered the Drive and Fuzz pedals too!

Thanks for all the advice. In the end I ordered a Danelectro Transparent Overdrive after reading reviews and hearing soundclips etc. I figured for the price and with all the recommendations I couldn't go wrong. In fact, as all the Cool Cat range pedals are so reasonably priced, I ordered the Drive and Fuzz pedals too!

which version TOD did you get? the v1 and v2 seem fairly different.

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johnnyseven wrote:I figured for the price and with all the recommendations I couldn't go wrong.

Except, of course, that they're a provenly hateful, homophobic company whose CEO is a supporter of Prop 8. You're new to the boards, so couldn't be expected to have known this, but try to only buy Dano product second hand if you can possibly help it.

That said, I have a (pre-hate) Dano TOD and it's great. And welcome aboard SS Shortscale.

benecol wrote:fetch me my pitchfork, lad.

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Sorry dude.

i'll chib you.

To the guy that asked, I managed to track down V1's of all the pedals I mentioned. 2 of them I bought new and the other was 2nd hand from ebay.

I don't know the details behind the last few posts on here, can anyone point me to some previous posts that might explain it a bit better?

edit: see below, it's a better choice of thread to illustrate the point...

Stewart said 'dude' in the diary thread, and the whole 'Bill and Ted'-ness of it has given me ammunition to jibe him about it since.

Oh, you mean this Dano lark.

turbo rat or, if you can find one, a zoom pd-01

Thanks for that. I've not heard of the Zoom pedal but i've had a Turbo Rat before and would catagorise it as more of a heavy distortion pedal than a mild overdrive and I found the one I had to be too muddy sounding for my taste. I have a modified Rat2 which I love and I much preferred to the Turbo Rat but again I would count this as a distortion pedal as opposed to an overdrive.

you should like the dano tod-- pretty good little pedal