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Posted: **Fri Apr 02, 2010 9:05 am**

cobascis wrote:Anybody sized down their pedalboard and not regretted it?

Totally. I went from this:

To this:

Best thing I ever did.

Posted: **Fri Apr 02, 2010 9:14 am**

To be fair, Thom, thats about the best board of all time

Posted: **Fri Apr 02, 2010 9:17 am**

Cheers mate, I haven't wanted to change it since I put it together.

Posted: **Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:35 pm**

Are you using a 1 spot to power them?

Posted: **Fri Apr 02, 2010 2:28 pm**

cobascis wrote:Are you using a 1 spot to power them?

It's a Diago Powerstation.

Posted: **Fri Apr 02, 2010 4:33 pm**

Thom wrote:
cobascis wrote:Are you using a 1 spot to power them?
It's a Diago Powerstation.

where do you get those diago clones from? heard someone mention them before.

Posted: **Fri Apr 02, 2010 4:38 pm**

when i was 15 i had a boss od2 and nothing else.

Posted: **Fri Apr 02, 2010 4:44 pm**

think my first pedal was a boss CE-5, hoping i might channel alex lifeson into me mits.

Posted: **Fri Apr 02, 2010 5:00 pm**

mage wrote:some of my opinions on pedals...

the whole point of a pedal board to me is to have a group of pedals for a very specific application, like playing a certain set of songs with your band. I mainly make music and record stuff at home so I don't have a pedal board. I have no permanent signal chain of any kind. the idea of having a pedal board where you are just stringing together every pedal you own into a giant mess of shit just makes no sense to me. I'm constantly switching the order of pedals and I generally go by the philosophy that more pedals just equals more stuff between the guitar signal and the amp, either adding noise or rolling off brightness, so you should try to keep it down to as few pedals as possible. if you can find a way to do without a certain pedal it should not be in your chain. you don't have to sell it necessarily but just toss it aside for another day. there's plenty of effects that come or go out of my rotation. effects like tremolo, chorus and phasers have very specific uses and naturally aren't going to be used as much as stuff like distortion and reverb. even delay and fuzz are relatively limited in their use.

the other thing for me with pedals is, there may be little minor differences here and there between different pedals but it's all subjective. I like to to search for oddball cheapo brands. I've scored some great pedals for $10 -$15 on eBay just because they're brands no one's heard of. they may sound minorly different to more expensive variants but that's fine, it gets you 95% there without straight ripping off some else's tone. maybe my pedal doesn't have that exact chip or resistor value, oh well, I guess that just makes me sound more unique.

the one glaring hole that I can see in your pedal collection here is the lack of an overdrive pedal of some sort. to me that's one of the most useful pedals you can possibly have. people will make different suggestions here but you might want to consider something like a Boss SD-1 or one of the other boss overdrive pedals. and there's the old standard tubescreamer and the variants. it's worth trying out. there's a reason why it's so commonly used. get ye a TS7 or TS5.

I agree with a lot of this.. and In some ways I'm similar... I don't have a pedal board or a permanent chain, I basically sold all my pedals and now I use my amps dirt (3 channels clean, drive 1, drive 2) a tuner, a boost, a fuzz, maybe a wah and that's it. I have a couple of dirt cheap multi-effects rack units (an old zoom and behringer) that I picked up on ebay for around Â£20 for those times when I'm recording something and 'fancy a bit of phaser' or whatever. Looking for oddballs on ebay is a great way to pick up some excellent stuff to, my mate does a great blog on such things... http://effectextra.blogspot.com/ old guyatones seem to be very cheap and excellent.

Posted: **Fri Apr 02, 2010 5:04 pm**

Thom, whats the black pedal third from right with the white knobs??

Posted: **Fri Apr 02, 2010 5:27 pm**

as far as down sizing your board goes, think about if you play in a band what kinda stuff do you need for your songs and how do you want to sound. It really depends on how many options you want, thats why something like an M9 is a great choice. lots of options, one pedal. The Best thing is to just try stuff out, find out what you realty really like. and see if you could get by with just those. in my case all the pedals on my board are being used, my wah is the only pedal that i dont use offen, but I do use it. I cant see my self ever downsizing but only going up in size, because to me I need all my effects.

Think about what you want to sound like, and what you need to get by in a band situation or otherwise.

The only pedal on here I would like to get rid of is "the fuzz box" and replace it with a micro pog. then i would be set. But yeah thats my giant board, but I press every single pedal on there all the time.

Some people can downsize and be happy, I cannot.

Posted: **Fri Apr 02, 2010 9:08 pm**

Thom wrote:
cobascis wrote:Are you using a 1 spot to power them?
It's a Diago Powerstation.

Oh, I see it now.

Posted: **Fri Apr 02, 2010 9:14 pm**

Some awesome advice in this thread, thanks!

Band practice tomorrow and I'll really try to get some good sounds out of them, get rid of the rest.

Posted: **Fri Apr 02, 2010 9:37 pm**

Progrockabuse wrote:where do you get those diago clones from? heard someone mention them before.

Haha - it's from Johnny Shredfreak - LANK.

Rayjaysonic wrote:Thom, whats the black pedal third from right with the white knobs??

That's "Lamp's Crunchy Distortion"

It's a Made by Mike Crunch Box clone. He did a demo of it, it's on the Shortscale youtube page.

Posted: **Sun Apr 04, 2010 4:11 am**

I'm going through with the reduction..

I wasn't really happy with my FX tone throughout practice. The SP Aenima is cool, but it is to sqealy and hard to adjust for my tastes. I've already had a craigslist bite for it. There is an Dwarfcraft Eau Claire thunder on offset which I'm looking at.

Any of you guys have an eau claire, I think rob has one. From what I've seen it seems versatile from tame to rawr.

Posted: **Sun Apr 04, 2010 9:26 am**

I find that sometimes, the effects sounds I try out at home don't work so well at band practise.

Posted: **Sun Apr 04, 2010 3:49 pm**

Totally the same for me. I often find myself eally cranking the treble on everything at home to make it sound crisp and biting only to find it really harsh and far too much top end when I get to practice and play at a decent volume.

Posted: **Sun Apr 04, 2010 3:55 pm**

eh, downsizing is cool.
all i use really is fuzz, and some kind of modulation for my band and whatnot.

Posted: **Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:22 pm**

and man be careful- everyone gets a new pedal and goes on harmony and writes about how it is the best pedal on the planet- two weeks later he will be selling it

Posted: **Sun Apr 04, 2010 6:38 pm**

Crxsh lol
I'm pretty sure everyonegoes through that honeymoon phase with new gear. I'm sure your mind won't let you realize it's not as great as you think it is because you are trying to justify the price. What really matters is how it makes you feel long term. The Hardwire Reverb I've had since it's release has blown me away every time I step on the thing. Even if I do "downsize" that pedal won't be leaving. I doubt I'd ever part with it. It's a constant hunt to find a pedal like that for every category. Overdrive, delays, etc.
Find the ones that suit your sound and needs and don't worry about size! A wise lesson!!!

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