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Doog wrote:

Fran wrote:Awful guitar. Take the rose tinted glasses off.
This model epitomizes why companies like Ibanez, Yamaha and Tokai were producing better quality guitars than Gibson by the late 1970s. The Peavey T-60's put these to shame and its only the decal that kept this guitar alive. It was a budget model and considering Les Pauls and SG's of that era are the most undesirable in Gibson history you'd assume this little fella has fuck all going for it. You'd be right too.

Interestiiiing, have you played one/some of them, Franster? I've not actually played a real one, I kinda wonder if the copy I had wasn't so far from the real deal..

It just combines a lot of what I like in a guitar- solid tuning, angled bridge pickup, slightly odd cosmetics without being fugly. Maybe a custom DIY job is a better idea.

My mate had a couple, he loved them but ended up selling them and buying a Gretsch chet atkins. I thought they were awful, same as an SG Special i had from that era as well, slab of wood with a fat neck, lacklustre pickups... Gibson put some real bad stuff out in the 70's, they turned it round in the 80's.
I can understand why some people like the Marauder, a bunch of cool players used them because they were an affordable Gibson, but to think they were an hidden gem would not be accurate. The early Juniors were the hidden gem as current price tags now demonstrate.

If you like the aesthetics i cant think of a direct rip off, although a single cut Gordon Smith could maybe be modified. Interesting point on angled pickups; apparently some companies did this because the pole pieces did'nt line up with the bridge string spacing. Not sure if this is one of them examples.

marauders look a bit like ovation vipers ..or vice versa.



i like the body but not the headstock (on both the gibson and ovation). in one of my previous bands one of the guitarists also used a viper (though mainly a jag player)

Fran wrote: Interesting point on angled pickups; apparently some companies did this because the pole pieces did'nt line up with the bridge string spacing. Not sure if this is one of them examples.

Nah mate- it's rail pickup:



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This guy sure like his, and based on his other videos, he can really play and has a lot of "nice" gear. You'd think he'd call it out as a lemon it was.

Doog wrote:You'd think he'd call it out as a lemon it was.

fran's just bitter.

One for sale at my local geetar shop. $790. People ask about it but nobody has taken the bite.

Doog wrote:Maybe a custom DIY job is a better idea.

I'm thinking it wouldn't be too difficult to mod a Les Paul Special II into one. I have an old one in parts laying around and I've just been contemplating how I'd build it up. I think I'd do the S-1 style pickguard but with a pickup configuration more similar to the marauder, with a tele bridge pickup and a mini humbucker in the neck position.

Mages wrote:

Doog wrote:Maybe a custom DIY job is a better idea.

I'm thinking it wouldn't be too difficult to mod a Les Paul Special II into one. I have an old one in parts laying around and I've just been contemplating how I'd build it up. I think I'd do the S-1 style pickguard but with a pickup configuration more similar to the marauder, with a tele bridge pickup and a mini humbucker in the neck position.

Yeah, totally- nothing more than a routing job and getting a custom scratchplate made, really. I admit I dig the V headstock with it too, but it may work with a different style too. I'm gonna photoshop myself up one out of a LP Special II and see what I reckon.

Lolz, Stewart- lolz.

edit: daaamn, is this a standard LP Special II? http://www.bigbeat.pl/product_info.php/products_id/3228

Doog wrote:

Mages wrote:

Doog wrote:Maybe a custom DIY job is a better idea.

I'm thinking it wouldn't be too difficult to mod a Les Paul Special II into one. I have an old one in parts laying around and I've just been contemplating how I'd build it up. I think I'd do the S-1 style pickguard but with a pickup configuration more similar to the marauder, with a tele bridge pickup and a mini humbucker in the neck position.

Yeah, totally- nothing more than a routing job and getting a custom scratchplate made, really. I admit I dig the V headstock with it too, but it may work with a different style too. I'm gonna photoshop myself up one out of a LP Special II and see what I reckon.

You could pull a neck from the Explorer GT if you had to have the V headstock.

my my, what do we have here...

Originally Posted By workinclasszero

Mid-70s' Gibson S-1. This is a player, no doubt, and has a ton of mojo. The bridge pick-up has been replaced with a Gibson 57 humbucker, and the middle pick up has been taken out of the circuit (too noisy). As is, the guitar plays and sounds great and it wouldn't take too much to restore it to original spec if you wanted to. $375 shipped. Paypal only. USA.

http://acapella.harmony-central.com/sho ... 950&page=4

kinda like.

stewart wrote:

Doog wrote:You'd think he'd call it out as a lemon it was.

fran's just bitter.

Apparently so, or over-negative. In future i may leave my experience and opinions at the door

I don't really like the way these look but the one in the country guy's video looks great. Stealth pickups really helps.

Fran wrote:

stewart wrote:

Doog wrote:You'd think he'd call it out as a lemon it was.

fran's just bitter.

Apparently so, or over-negative. In future i may leave my experience and opinions at the door

it was just a lemons/bitter joke, i wasn't having a dig at you!

It's too late. Fran's gone. OH WELL FUCKING DONE STEW. HAPPY NOW?

stewart wrote:

Fran wrote:

stewart wrote: fran's just bitter.

Apparently so, or over-negative. In future i may leave my experience and opinions at the door

it was just a lemons/bitter joke, i wasn't having a dig at you!

I know mate, i got it, i also maybe read too much between the lines

Just wait until they bring out a blacktop Marauder...

Hahaha...

I'm looking at making a Marauder body; the Special II would need major routing to allow the pots to sit on the scratchplate in the right places so I figured it could be a "fun little project" for a while.

If it goes badly, no biggie- it's £15 worth of pine/MDF. But it goes well... HOO BOYYYY

Y'know.. the more and more I look at the Gibson Marauder, its pickups, its various fittings... the more and more it looks identical to my Avon/Rose Morris copy.

The pickups are hardly your standard run of the mill type pickup, and the ones in my copy were exactly the same, even down to the little brass nuts in the perspex that serve as height adjustment screwholes



I wonder if the copies (including the Maya one) came out of the same factory??

there's an avon rose one on ebay just now.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MIJ-Avon-Rose-Gib ... 0522866817

wouldn't say it's worth the BIN price though.